So, in order: 1. I’m pretty sure Cuddlebeam’s condition is invalid, and thus no judges are barred.
2. Therefore, the final proviso “as long as … the barring attempt above had barred someone” in eir pledge does not hold. 3. Therefore, the pledge does not hold. 4. Therefore, the condition “the conditional in the pledge would mean Cuddlebeam has to pay me a shiney [sic] if e has one” does not hold. 5. Therefore, you did not pay Cuddlebeam a shiny. Which is good, because it means I don’t have to track this. -o > On May 22, 2017, at 4:16 PM, Quazie <quazieno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > If CuddleBeam has no Shinies, and I am the judge summoned to judge CFJ 3505, > and the conditional in the pledge would mean CuddleBeam has to pay me a > shiney if e has one, then I transfer one Shiny to CuddleBeam so that they > will transfer it back to me (so they don't break eir pledge). > > Also - What's the time scale on fulfilling pledges? I assume in a timely > manner for general pledges like this one, but I am unsure. > > On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 11:16 AM Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk > <mailto:ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk>> wrote: > On Sun, 2017-05-21 at 05:27 +0200, CuddleBeam wrote: > > Employing the power of Rule 991/17, I submit a Call for Judgement for the > > following statement: > > > > "Can this statement have a Judge?" > > > > I also opt to bar one person from such procedure. That person is the person > > who would successfully become the first Judge of the Call for Judgement > > submitted by this message. > > This is CFJ 3505. I assign it to Quazie. (My own current understanding > is that the attempt to bar the judge fails because it's a conditional > action based on information that will only be available in the future; > presumably, the CFJ verdict might end up confirming or denying this > understanding.) > > See also this message: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-discussion@agoranomic.org/msg35262.html > <http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-discussion@agoranomic.org/msg35262.html>> > > > ---- > > > > I pledge to grant one Shiny (if I have at least one and I am capable of > > such a transfer) to the Judge of the CFJ summoned via the content above as > > long as rules relevant to CFJs haven't changed since I have announced this > > pledge and the barring attempt above had barred someone. > > > > (I dunno, could be fun lol, and I'm very curious about how this might turn > > out.) > > -- > ais523 > Arbitor
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