Proposal: "Pledge Timelines" AI=1.7 Coauthor='G.' {{{ Replace the text of Rule 2450 with the following: {{{ Breaking a publicly-made pledge is a cardable offense. If a publicly-made pledge says a person SHALL do something, without providing a time limit, then e SHALL in a timely manner in order to not break said pledge. }}} }}}
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:08 PM Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > Phrase it as the default if no time limit is supplied, not a hard-coded > only option. Like: "if a pledge says a person SHALL do something, without > providing a time limit, then e SHALL in a timely manner in order to keep > the pledge"). > > The problem with your phrasing: Think about SHALL NOTs instead of SHALLs. > If someone pledges to NOT do something, do you really want to hard-code > that > they only have to refrain for a week, then they've fulfilled their pledge? > > On Mon, 22 May 2017, Quazie wrote: > > I can't figure out the right way to note that a pledge SHALL be > fulfilled in a timely manner, but I only want to imply that the pledge > > maker SHALL fulfil their end of the pledge, once the conditional is met, > but i want to do that without being overly perscriptive on > > pledges.{{{ > > > > Breaking a publicly-made pledge is a cardable offense. A pledge SHALL > be fulfilled in a timely manner > > > > }}} > > > > The above seems to not quite imply what I want. > > > > > > On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 1:24 PM Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 22 May 2017, Quazie wrote: > > > Also - What's the time scale on fulfilling pledges? I assume in > a timely manner for > > > general pledges like this one, but I am unsure. > > > > There's no Rules-specified time limit and the question's never > been asked > > for pledges. For Rules-based SHALLs, if there's no explicit time > limit, I > > don't think there is one. A fun example is this one: > > Upon such an occurrence, the vote collector for the decision > > SHALL issue a humiliating public reminder to the slackers > who > > have not yet cast any votes on it despite being eligible... > > I think I've seen someone issue a reminder long after it was too > late! > > > > > > > > >