On Wed, 2 Dec 2009, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:34 PM, comex <com...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Sean Hunt <ride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If anyone else wants to be Dealor, go ahead.
>>
>> A scam like you propose is a serious breach of trust; I for one would
>> not worry about keeping an office but focus on not being exiled.
>
> Forging email headers or creating false identities in order to cheat
> is a serious breach of trust.  Kicking everyone else out of the game
> in order to establish a dictatorship is just part of playing nomic.
> Agora's longevity has created an odd meta-rule that goes something
> like "Thou shalt not destroy Agora", which ironically robs Agora of
> some of its nomicness.

Sort of.  I think the better way to put it is, as a community of players 
rather than a single game, a reaction against "playing nastily" is "well
we won't play games with you then."  Of course, one person's nasty is
another player's very decent round of Diplomacy.  (Personally the only
trust-breach I see if this went through is wholly-in game, and would be 
breach of trust of an elected official for which removal-from-office is 
the right penalty, plus of course any Rests earned along the way).

Ultimately, what we're dealing with is, if a person does take an 
absolute dictatorship, and e makes too many changes, then players who
are strongly pro-democratic may leave, and having a dictatorship
with no players is rather hollow.  So ultimately it's very nomic, as
you're just trying to make sure players don't exercise their ultimate
nomic-right to stop playing.  And in Agora, for better or worse, that
means fairly conservative play; if you want something else, B is right
next door, and as is currently very apparent they don't participate in
things too much like Agora :).

-G.



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