On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 14:45 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: > ais523 wrote: > > > On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 16:34 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:23 PM, ais523<callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk> > >> wrote: > >>> Ineffective, CoEs have to be done publically, which is secured at power > >>> 3, and no sufficiently powerful rule lets you do that. > >> I Say This Is The Correct Interpretation And Therefore It Is The > >> Correct Interpretation? > > > > Nobody has argued for another interpretation of the rule in question, on > > this list or a-b, yet. Acting on behalf is secured, that's pretty > > obvious; the only contention is whether sending a message is acting on > > behalf of yourself, and game custom up to now, as well as common sense, > > and the precedent of CFJ 2077, says it is. Everyone suddenly seems to > > have changed their minds, though, now that's been used as part of a > > scam. > > How does Rule 478 fail to allow it? Also, do you agree that > interpreting "equivalence" = "shorthand" thus unidirectional > would (if accepted, even if you don't accept it) break the scam?
Game custom, judicial precedents, and common sense are all that actions that are not on behalf of someone else are on behalf of oneself; the "equivalence" in the rules is a rules-based argument for that as well, but even if the part of the rule in question didn't exist, the bit that secures action on behalf secures all actions (again, see CFJ 2077, where Warrigal deregistered by acting on behalf of emself, and it was judged that that was equivalent to merely deregistering without an attempt to act obo). As for rule 478, I don't see anyone prevented from participating in the fora; you are at the moment, for instance. That's rather different from participating in the game; creating a legal fiction that sent messages don't contain actions doesn't prevent the message reaching the lists. (Besides, there are various other ways to take actions; for instance, if you join The Hidden Cheese, and at least one other player does, you can use it to take actions on behalf of each other. And anyone joining that contract can act obo me to publish its text and membership.) -- ais523
