On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Elliott Hird wrote:
> On 5 Jan 2009, at 19:19, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>> And yes I really really and on purpose ducked what happens with those only-
>> somewhat-resty rests in the future... it may even be to your advantage
>> to keep a non-resty rest around (i.e. never go down to zero) for its
>> special properties.
>
> Can it cast spells?
>
> P.S. With chokey, you can get out just by waiting and doing nothing. With 
> Rests,
> you have to take substantial game actions to get the required notes and then
> get rid of them to remove the rests. Surely this counts as "additional" 
> punishment?

Or I can spend to get out early rather than cooling my heels.  Given that
my rests are at a certain level, I can spend two notes of any kind (rather 
than three or more of specific kinds) to drop my rests and bump my votes 
up.  I can trade or make deals.  Or, I can just decide I'm not bothered to 
have a few rests and live with the punishment if I like.  I personally 
believe the high flexibility is a *better* deal, especially given the 
economic instruments that permeate the game now.  That's also why the "can 
only spend rests to reduce punishment" *is* new and particularly onerous, 
in that it reduces flexibility.

But given that you and I differ, I looked at the Conductor's Report to
ask if the burden was great for "typical" players, and with the number of 
notes around, I thought it was not a new burden for the typical player, and 
noted the invalidity of considering a defendant's opinion of eir own 
punishment (BobTHJ's precedent).

Is it more of a burden for someone who isn't interested in participating
in the game in enough of the myriad ways to legitimately build up a few 
notes or get enough alternate currencies to offer a trade to other players 
for them?  Perhaps.  But that's a choice, too.  Given that we've generally 
linked wealth to meritocracy or participation, I think that to the "typical" 
player more choice and flexibility are a Good Thing in the current 
environment, both for the game *and* for the typical player.

So overall, it's better to some, worse to some, but sufficiently similar
overall, given that the past and present systems are notably different, 
that the courts generally shouldn't gainsay the legislative result.

-Goethe



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