On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 15:40, Michael Norrish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the case for him not being natural born? > Obama claims to be born in Hawaii. To verify this claim he has posted a digital copy of a Certificate of Live Birth on his website, and a high ranking Hawaii official has confirmed that his birth certificate is on file. However, there are a number of issues which have been raised and have led to about a dozen lawsuits including one filed by Alan Keyes, a third party opponent in the presidential election. Some issues raised are:
* Obama has not released any hard-copy Birth Certificate (or other identification documents) for review by any election official * The Certificate of Live Birth posted to his website may be a forgery (it's border pattern does not match those issued by the state of Hawaii at that point in time) * A Certificate of Live Birth is not the same as a Birth Certificate, in that they can be issued to any infant up to age 1, even if they were not native born in Hawaii * The Obama Campaign has blocked all efforts to obtain his Birth Certificate from the State of Hawaii * Relatives of Obama's Kenyan father, who reside in Kenya claim to have been present at his birth in Kenya * Even if he is a natural born citizen (born in Hawaii) he was adopted by an Indonesian step-father and moved to Indonesia. As Indonesia does not allow dual-cizitenship, he would have had to renounce his US citizenship as part of this process. Documents found in Indonesia list him as an Indonesian citizen. I find it disturbing that the US media has largely shoved this under the rug. While it is likely that Obama is indeed a US natural born ciziten (required by the constitution to be US President) the burden of proof should lie with him to substantiate this claim, and it should have been done long before the presidential election took place. The below link contains more detail information: http://colony14.net/id41.html Note that it is written from a conservative viewpoint, so the left-leaning among you will likely disagree with some of the assumptions made. However, there is a long list of references at the bottom which can be followed to get more direct sources of information. BobTHJ