On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:58 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The first, too, is irrelevant to this case; the crux of the issue is
> whether privilege, in ordinary-language meaning, is MAY or CAN.  How
> about both?
>
> Googling 'rights and privileges', one of the websites that comes up
> contrasts the right of life or liberty with the privilege of driving a
> car.  Assume that a teenager does not have the privilege of driving
> his car, and MAY NOT and CANNOT do it (he doesn't have access to the
> keys, for example).  If he gained the ability to do it (found the
> keys), but was still forbidden to do it, we wouldn't say that he had
> gained the privilege of driving his car; nor would we in the more
> bizarre situation that he became allowed to do it but remained unable
> to.  We would only say that he has the privilege of driving his car if
> he MAY and CAN do so.

Yeah, the example I had in mind to bring up if pressed was the
privilege of voting.  If a person lacks this privilege (e.g. a
resident alien or a convicted felon), then to borrow Agoran
terminology, e MAY NOT and CANNOT vote; if e attempts to vote anyway,
the fraudulent ballot would be invalidated if discovered.  Voting in
Agora, where an ineligible voter clearly CANNOT vote, works the same
way.

-root

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