On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 14:07 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: > Proto-Proposal: But what is truth? > > Zefram and Goethe are co-authors of this proposal. > > Amend Rule 2149 (Truthfulness) to read: > > A person SHALL NOT make a public statement unless e reasonably > believes it is true. > > For the purpose of this rule: > > a) Merely quoting a false statement does not constitute making > that statement. > > b) Any disclaimer, conditional clause, or other qualifier > attached to a statement constitutes part of the statement; > the truth or falsity of the whole is what is significant. > > c) A public statement that one performs an action is true if > and only if one thereby succeeds in performing that action. I would strongly prefer it if rule 2149 was amended the other way, to make failed attempts to perform acts legal (e.g. what happens if a contest is decontestified but the contestmaster still has to try to award points). I am a roleplayer, among other things, and attempting to perform actions is very distinct from making statements (speech acts are just the method by which they're performed); likewise, in nearly all other environments, the performing of an act has nothing to do with making a statement. (In codenomics, for instance, there are not speech acts, but instead all rules that allow something to be performed specify a mechanism for doing so; even in B Nomic, some actions used to be performed by writing specific pieces of text in public messages which were parsed by computers.)
Hmm... I seem to have a veto right now and rule 2149 is power 1. I don't really like using vetos, but now might seem to be a good time. Would this be massively against the Agoran Spirit if I try? Would people just try to make it democratic? -- ais523
