BTW, Brick, welcome to the fray! It's hard work, but worth it, I think. :-) Colin
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:34 AM Berick Cook <[email protected]> wrote: > So what you're saying, Colin, is that the computation that occurs via the > binary transistors of a computer is fundamentally different than the > computation that occurs in the neural structures of the brain? And you take > issue with people assuming that both forms of computation "can create > equivalent levels (indistinguishable) of intelligent behaviour"? > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 2:18 PM Colin Hales <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed., 3 Jul. 2019, 7:05 am Matt Mahoney, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> So if computation is not behind intelligence (based on 65 years of AGI >>> failure) and you have no idea what is, then what is the basis of your chip >>> design, and what do you hope to accomplish with it? >>> >> >> This just keeps on happening. >> >> I have explicitly said more times than I can remember that the brain is >> 100% computation. >> >> What said is that it is not a 'computer'. >> >> The basis of what computation happens in a computer is the physics >> (causality) of a computer. The computations performed by the brain are >> performed by brain physics(causality). >> >> This entire discussion has been about the assumed equivalence of these >> two things, and how it would be scientifically proved. That proof happens >> when the science does both (e)RIGHT (the computer) and the brain physics >> (e)LEFT are compared and contrasted..... As a matter of normalisation of a >> science that currently lacks the latter. >> >> The substrate independence hypothesis is a hypothesis that the two can >> create equivalent levels (indistinguishable) of intelligent behaviour. >> >> This is how you prove it: for the purposes you have to compare the two, >> not assume it true. >> >> Have I finally thrown the ball over the home plate? >> >> Colin >> >> > > -- > Berick Cook > Independent Developer > AI Research <http://airis-ai.com/> > Games / Software <http://berickcook.itch.io> > YouTube Channel <https://www.youtube.com/c/berickcook> > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery > options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T87761d322a3126b1-M489a858cfdb318a7afaf4248> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T87761d322a3126b1-Mf1ad625bc763bec19ee66e14 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
