Many of us believe that the qualities that could make natural language more powerful are necessary for AGI, and will lead -directly- into the rapid development of stronger AI. The sensory system may be seen as a method of encoding sensory events or a kind of symbolic language. Our "body language" is presumably less developed and expressive of our speaking and writing but it does not make sense to deny that our bodies react to events. And some kind of language-like skills are at work in relating sensory events to previously learned knowledge and these skills are involved in creating knowledge. And if this is a reasonable speculation then the fact that our mind's knowledge is vastly greater than our ability to express it says something about the sophistication of this "mental language" which we possess. At any rate, a computer program and the relations that it encodes from IO may be seen in the terms of a language. Jim Bromer
On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 10:12 AM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote: > Language is essential to every job that we might use AGI for. There is no > job that you could do without the ability to communicate with people. Even > guide dogs and bomb sniffing dogs have to understand verbal commands. > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019, 7:25 PM Robert Levy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It's very easy to show that "AGI should not be designed for NL". Just >> ask yourself the following questions: >> >> 1. How many species demonstrate impressive leverage of intentional >> behaviors? (My answer would be: all of them, though some more than others) >> 2. How many species have language (My answer: only one) >> 3. How biologically different do you think humans are from apes? (My >> answer: not much different, the whole human niche is probably a consequence >> one adaptive difference: cooperative communication by scaffolding of joint >> attention) >> >> I'm with Rodney Brooks on this, the hard part of AGI has nothing to do >> with language, it has to do with agents being highly optimized to control >> an environment in terms of ecological information supporting >> perception/action. Just as uplifting apes will likely require only minor >> changes, uplifting animaloid AGI will likely require only minor changes. >> Even then we still haven't explicitly cared about language, we've cared >> about cooperation by means of joint attention, which can be made use of >> culturally develop language. >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:05 PM Boris Kazachenko <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I would be more than happy to pay: >>> https://github.com/boris-kz/CogAlg/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md , but I >>> don't think you are working on AGI. >>> No one here does, this is a NLP chatbot crowd. Anyone who thinks that >>> AGI should be designed for NL data as a primary input is profoundly >>> confused. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 7:04 AM Stefan Reich via AGI < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Not from you guys necessarily... :o) But I thought I'd let you know. >>>> >>>> Pitch: >>>> https://www.meetup.com/Artificial-Intelligence-Meetup/messages/boards/thread/52050719 >>>> >>>> Let's see if it can be done... funny how some hurdles always seem to >>>> appear when you're about to finish something good. Something about the >>>> duality of the universe I guess. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Stefan Reich >>>> BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems >>>> >>> *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery > options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T191003acdcbf5ef8-M6659313147797cfeb24a4202> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T191003acdcbf5ef8-M7909b404cfb1565a8670079e Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
