The article is just repeating her claims, and it doesn't provide any specific examples either. The one example they do give is "Global Refuge", which I can't find on her site at all. Not in her chart of payments, not in the principal officer search, and not in the grant funding.
One thing I did find was a few things that are almost definitely wrong, but if I give it the "steel man" argument and assume all of the data is correct, it still doesn't look like evidence of money laundering. OrgA paid OrgB $100,000 OrgB paid OrgC $10,000 OrgC paid OrgD $42,000 So what? Nothing says what the payment was for. Nothing says the payments were even related to each other. I haven't yet seen any of the generated charts indicate USAID as the source of funding. Maybe OrgA needed the expertise of a specialist who works for OrgB and paid them as a consultant. Maybe OrgB wanted a data set that OrgC had, and reimbursed them for the cost of exporting and curating the data for them. Maybe OrgC rented a building from OrgD. We know some of these charities spend almost nothing on their actual charitable mission. They're just a vehicle to raise money and send it off to support the work of another organization (and siphon some off for their employees). Given all of that, if one is paying another for something why does that indicate money laundering or any other issue? The disclaimer is the most interesting part to me, because it sounds like we're supposed to play our own game of connect the dots. If we're doing that, then we can find whatever pattern we want to see. Even if she is a genius she's not immune to that. Geniuses are better at that game, if anything. If anyone does see the pattern, please fill me in. Something that has been bugging me from day 1 of DOGE is that I'm being told that USAID is a money laundering scheme, but to date I haven't figured out what the scheme is. I can't prove they're not committing fraud or money laundering, but what is the evidence of it? -Adam ________________________________ From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck <ch...@go-mtc.com> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2025 5:27 PM To: af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com> Cc: af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT USAID I am only repeating stuff from the newspaper article. Have not tried to replicate it yet. Looks like a great data mining tool. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2025, at 3:16 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: I am trying to apply healthy skepticism. I'm not meaning to strawman you, so correct me if I'm misunderstanding, but what I think you're saying is something like this: Congressman "X" sits on the board of Charity "Y" and is paid a salary of some kind. Charity "Y" receives a grant for something. Congressman "X" ensured Charity "Y" received their government cheese, and then gets compensated. Maybe it's not a grant specifically, but some sort of donation or payment from USAID to this charity. My problem is I've been looking for a few hours and haven't seen evidence of this. Can you point me to an example that you found? I got a list of US representatives, alphabetical by state, and I put the first 100 into the bulk officer search. There are some matching names, but almost none of them show any compensation. When I do find one with a matching name and some compensation shown I search for that company officer and find out the full names or their pictures don't match up. I have not finished an exhaustive search, but so far, I'm striking out. Some of the entries on the bulk officer search results show a "See USAID grant flow" link on the right hand side, so I followed some of them. <image.png> For the example above, the flow chart doesn't have the "Jewish Community Center of Somerset" on it. It does have some other org with the word "Jewish" in the name and a different EIN. If I search the Charity Graph for Jewish Community Center's EIN then it generates a flow chart featuring that name and EIN, but it doesn't show any pathway to taxpayer funding. So that one must be some kind of fuzzy matching where the system is conflating one organization with another with some similarity in the name. For lots of orgs the "USAID grant flow" link does show the correct org, and I see values saying, "taxpayer funding", but nothing says it came from USAID.....and following the arrows doesn't lead me to anything that sounds like a foreign aid organization. Further, I looked up a list of organizations which do receive funding from USAID and most of them don't show up in a search on the Charity Chart. One that does show up is "Save the Children Federation Inc", but it conspicuously has no monetary pathways to anything else on the chart. <image.png> Again, I haven't exhaustively searched, but it would help if someone points me to what I should be finding. The disclaimers on the "USAID grant flow" page don't inspire confidence. They seem to be admitting that it's not evidence, but that with common sense I should be able to see a pattern. The thing is, humans are really good at seeing patterns whether or not one is really there. In psychology experiments they show people images with random dots and ask them to find the pattern. There is no pattern, but after hearing that there is one, most people will find one. Similarly to how a bunch of classical age people decided there was a picture of a bear in the sky: <image.png> Get real, Romans! If anything, that's a goose. I'm not saying there's no evidence here, but I don't have enough hours in the day to sit here and continue to not find anything. Can you just tell me what the pattern is that I'm not seeing? I have not seen the sailboat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sahnApE0I7c [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.Xxo8eFXu6kxYKb2lFrlHtAHgFo&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sahnApE0I7c> Mallrats (1995) You Dumb Bastard<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sahnApE0I7c> Mallrats (1995) You Dumb Bastard www.youtube.com -Adam ________________________________ From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of ch...@go-mtc.com <ch...@go-mtc.com> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2025 11:34 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] OT USAID https://datarepublican.com/ Here you can track boards that both sides of the aisle set on and get paid large director’s fees. Those companies, many of them non profit, then in turn are supported by charities that are funded by USAID. Crazy money laundering from the treasury, through USAID into the pockets of all congressmen and women…. The gal that created this tool is deaf and non verbal. She has specialized in the analysis of large data sets using AI and has worked for the larger companies. She did this kinda as a hobby. But Rolling Stone has doxed her and made her have to move from Utah to Florida. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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