OK, maybe you’re right.
Hard to tell where his head’s at. What he did at X/Twitter seemed
more like running it into the ground out of spite than trying to make
money. And he’s trying to say Tesla is an AI company not a car company.
His net worth is cited as around $400 billion, but that’s stock
valuation, right? Not liquid. Not like Scrooge McDuck swimming in
gold coins. I seem to remember he had to borrow money to buy Twitter.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/how-will-elon-musk-pay-twitter-2022-10-07/
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:29 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov)
Think he doesn't care? Right now Tesla annual revenue is $97
billion/year, of which about $17 billion of that is considered profit.
SpaceX might be doing great, but Tesla dwarfs SpaceX by almost an
order of magnitude.
bp
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On 2/16/2025 1:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Not sure he cares. Besides, SpaceX is supposedly his big
moneymaker, and its #1 customer thinks quite highly of him.
I’ve also read that Starlink has started to be a cash cow.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/02/starlink-profit-growing-rapidly-as-it-faces-a-moment-of-promise-and-peril/
Other Musk companies like Boring Company and Neuralink don’t seem
like genius business ideas. But something has to finance his
missions to Mars.
https://people.com/human-interest/elon-musk-once-said-mars-needs-people-after-mark-cuban-asked-how-many-kids-he-wants/
It is being claimed he is up to 13 kids now, that would put him
ahead of Nick Cannon.
https://people.com/parents/all-about-nick-cannon-kids/
But I don’t think Elon is the white Nick Cannon, more like the
white Kanye West?
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
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*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov
<http://www.doge.gov>)
Seems Elon may be backing himself into a hole. People who have
been the biggest buyers of Tesla vehicles are now being repulsed
by his antics. People who have not, and probably will not buy
electric vehicles aren't going to start buying them because, well,
they're electric.
https://cleantechnica.com/2025/02/15/tesla-troubles-mount-as-musk-goes-full-rogue/
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 2/15/2025 3:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/doge-website-is-just-one-big-x-ad/
DOGE’s Website Is Just One Big X Ad
*The source code for the new Department of Government
Efficiency’s “official US government website” points to X as
its primary source of authority, while sharing links to the
site sends users to x.com.*
At a press conference in the Oval Office
<https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/12/tech/elon-musk-x-oval-office/index.html>
this
week, Elon Musk promised the actions of his so-called
Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)
<https://www.wired.com/tag/doge/> project would be “maximally
transparent,” thanks to information posted to its website.
At the time of his comment, the DOGE website was empty
<https://bsky.app/profile/joncooper-us.bsky.social/post/3lhwsmk4iac2u>.
However, when the site finally came online Thursday morning,
it turned out to be little more than a glorified feed of posts
from the official DOGE account on Musk’s own X platform,
raising new questions about Musk’s conflicts of interest in
running DOGE
<https://www.npr.org/2025/02/12/nx-s1-5293382/x-elon-musk-doge-cfpb>.
DOGE.gov claims to be an “official website of the United
States government,” but rather than giving detailed breakdowns
of the cost savings and efficiencies Musk claims his project
is making, the homepage of the site just replicated posts from
the DOGE account on X.
A WIRED review of the page’s source code shows that the
promotion of Musk’s own platform went deeper than replicating
the posts on the homepage. The source code shows that the
site’s canonical tags
<https://moz.com/learn/seo/canonicalization> direct search
engines to x.com rather than DOGE.gov.
A canonical tag is a snippet of code that tells search engines
what the authoritative version of a website is. It is
typically used by sites with multiple pages as a search engine
optimization tactic, to avoid their search ranking being diluted.
In DOGE’s case, however, the code is informing search engines
that when people search for content found on DOGE.gov, they
should not show those pages in search results, but should
instead display the posts on X.
“It is promoting the X account as the main source, with the
website secondary,” Declan Chidlow, a web developer
<https://vale.rocks/>, tells WIRED. “This isn't usually how
things are handled, and it indicates that the X account is
taking priority over the actual website itself.”
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All the other US government websites WIRED checked used their
own homepage in their canonical tags, including the official
White House website. Additionally, when sharing the DOGE
website on mobile devices, the source code creates a link to
the DOGE X account rather than the website itself.
“It seems that the DOGE website is secondary, and they are
prodding people in the direction of the X account everywhere
they can,” Chidlow adds.
Alongside the homepage feed of X posts, a section of Doge.gov
labeled “Savings” now appears. So far the page is empty except
for a single line that reads: “Receipts coming soon, no later
than Valentine's day,” followed by a heart emoji
<https://www.wired.com/story/heart-emoji-lost-all-meaning/>.
A section entitled “Workforce” features some bar charts
showing how many people work in each government agency, with
the information coming from data gathered by the Office of
Personnel Management in March 2024.
A disclaimer at the bottom of the page reads: “This is DOGE's
effort to create a comprehensive, government-wide org chart.
This is an enormous effort, and there are likely some errors
or omissions. We will continue to strive for maximum accuracy
over time.”
Another section, entitled “Regulations,” features what DOGE
calls the “Unconstitutionality Index,” which it describes as
“the number of agency rules created by unelected bureaucrats
for each law passed by Congress in 2024.”
The charts in this section are also based on data previously
collected by US government agencies. Doge.gov also links to a
Forbes article from last month that was written by Clyde Wayne
Crews, a member of the Heartland Institute, a conservative
think tank that pushed climate change disinformation
<https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/news/heartland-institute-leak-exposes-strategies-of-climate-attack-machine/>
and
questioned the links between tobacco and lung cancer
<https://www.tobaccotactics.org/article/heartland-institute/>.
It is also a major advocate for privatizing government
departments
<https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/in-shift-key-climate-denialist-group-heartland-institute-pivots-to-policy/>.
The site also features a “Join” page which allows prospective
DOGE employees to apply for roles including “software
engineers, InfoSec engineers, and other technology
professionals.” As well as requesting a Github account and
résumé, the form asks visitors to “provide 2-3 bullet points
showcasing exceptional ability.”
The website does not list a developer, but on Wednesday, web
application security expert Sam Curry outlined in a thread on
X <https://x.com/samwcyo/status/1889527715029557607> how he
was able to identify the developer of the site as DOGE
employee Kyle Shutt.
Curry claims he was able to link a Cloudflare account ID found
in the site’s source code to Shutt, who used the same account
when developing Musk’s America PAC
<https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-america-pac-election-denial-community-x/>
website.
On Thursday, Drop Site News
<https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/doge-fema-funding-access-social-security-numbers>
reported,
citing sources within FEMA, that Shutt had gained access to
the agency’s proprietary software controlling payments.
Earlier this week, Business Insider reported
<https://www.businessinsider.com/doge-staff-list-white-house-2025-2>
that
Shutt, who recently worked at an AI interviewing software
company, was listed as one of 30 people working for DOGE.
Neither Shutt, DOGE, nor the White House responded to requests
for comment.
