I am trying to reserve judgement on DOGE until the documentation of the fraud, 
waste, and abuse is disclosed.  Right now we really only have statements from 
Elon and from Whitehouse staff.  I don't know why we should immediately have 
faith in their words.

Also, while I applaud any excising of fraud, waste, and abuse, a $65 billion 
savings or a $100 billion from tariffs barely move the needle when we have 
budget shortfalls now measured in trillions.  Every little bit helps, but there 
will need to be some hard changes to avoid a major financial crisis.  The 
problem is Medicare and Social Security by the way.  Retiring baby boomers and 
lower birth rates post baby boom have caught up with us.  We can keep 
pretending that 3 billion for emergency room service for illegal immigrants is 
the problem, and while we fight about that the bus will keep driving towards 
the cliff.  We might actually have to raise taxes, increase SS withholdings, 
and overhaul healthcare (in one way or another).  We may also need to make 
legal immigration easier so we can get a workforce sufficient to support our 
retirees.  And most of those immigrants will come from "shithole" countries 
because people aren't going to make an effort to emigrate from a country where 
things are going well.

None of those are things people can get elected on, and none of them are easy 
for our two parties to agree on the correct paths for so I may just go full 
prepper and stockpile for the impending depression.

-Adam

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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Steve Jones 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 3:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: We have names for certain cars.

praise kek

I love watching the mental gymnastics of the musk haters. Its like a group of 
karens who drank the pituitary gold from a pile of shaved incels, then smoked 
some shit ditch weed and started trying to do a spoken word. If you could 
capture that level of retard, amplify it by a magnitude of ten then filter it 
through a coconut coffee filter and feed it to a retarded goat with a lisp. The 
shit that goat took would be on par.

I sometimes say "self, lets go to twitter and see what they have to say today" 
And oh boy, do the soys not let me down, ever.

On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 6:21 PM Ken Hohhof 
<khoh...@kwom.com<mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote:
Kekius Maximus?

-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 6:14 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: We have names for certain cars.

But he is a great emperor.

-----Original Message-----
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On 
Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 3:39 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: We have names for certain cars.

Elon Musk is a terrible president, besides the fact that no one voted for
him in any venue. Almost as bad as vice president Trump.

and we were not considering the Nazi salute so much as his elevation of the
AfD in Germany. The Germans have every right to be scared of Neo-naziism.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/5/2025 2:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> The 20 year olds from X that President Musk is dispatching to
> dismantle government agencies have been dubbed the "Musketeers".
>
> As far as the salute, I took it as Elon just being socially awkward,
> but rather than just say you guys took it the wrong way, he had to go
> and make a bunch of Nazi jokes (like I did Nazi see that coming).
> Plus he's supporting AfD in Germany.  I still think he was just being
> nerdy Elon, but he doesn't make it easy to defend him.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of ch...@go-mtc.com<mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 4:12 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: We have names for certain cars.
>
> With respect to swasticar....
> I have seen photo montages of Obama (both of them) Taylor Swift, Nancy
> Pelosi and others with a right arm outstretched, palm flat facing
> downward....
>
> When does it become a Nazi symbol?  Is it only based on who is doing
> it?  Is the angle of the arm an issue?  Is there some kind of
> acceptable arm vector coordinates that qualify?  How about finger
> arrangement, if you do a Vulcan salute does that get you off the hook?
Wrist angles?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Prince
> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 2:47 PM
> To: AFMUG
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: We have names for certain cars.
>
>
> My wife and I have have names for certain cars.
>
>       Prius = Cheese Wedge
>       Cybertruck = SUT (Stupid Ugly Truck)
>       Tesla (in general) = Swasticar.
>
>
> We also noticed that the Tesla Density (TD) in Palo Alto ,CA is maybe
> an order of magnitude above what we see in Saratoga, CA (in which the
> TD is so high that you can't swing a cat without hitting a Tesla.
>
>

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