I was thinking of the cost to repair the TMA. Looks like after a crash the T part should be OK but the A part is probably a total loss.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 1:46 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cost of lashing onto strand Different states. Michigan is a "no fault state" so even if someone rams you while you're stopped at a red light, your insurance fixes/totals your car while their insurance does their car. Ohio is a fault state so for some reason people are more concerned about not hitting each others' cars and the premiums are overall much lower... On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 2:27 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote: Usually we hire a traffic control firm that has all the special crap and knows the rules on how to deploy it. I familiarized myself enough with the MUTCD to know that there are situations I'd handle myself and situations I'd rather let someone else handle. I'm confident that with the book at hand I could plan a perfectly regulatory compliant traffic control plan, but there's not enough time in the day for that. I would hope if someone missed all the orange signs telling them to change lanes and then plows through a line of cones into the crash truck that THEIR insurance covers their own negligence. But you never know these days. Maybe a lawyer will come along and say your "road work ahead" sign was 3 inches away from the correct position and then make it your fault. -Adam _____ From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > on behalf of Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com <mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 2:08 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cost of lashing onto strand I had to look it up. Also called truck mounted attenuators (TMAs). Like crash barrels but driveable. Also called scorpion trucks, I guess because they look like scorpions. I wonder if you rent one, does the rental cost include insurance for if someone crashes into it? From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 12:56 PM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cost of lashing onto strand it's so the looky-lou's don't kill your crew. They deploy them here, even on two-lane highways. On 2/13/25 10:07, Adam Moffett wrote: NY DOT requires them on state highways. It has a big shock absorber on the rear end, and you park it at the rear of your work area. If someone doesn't change lanes like they're supposed to they hit the crash truck. -Adam _____ From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> <ch...@go-mtc.com> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 1:03 PM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cost of lashing onto strand I don’t recall ever hearing of a crash truck. New one one me. Waiting around for an accident to clean up? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 11:25 AM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cost of lashing onto strand Fair point. The spreadsheet I saw did not itemize traffic control and other such ancillary items. -Adam _____ From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Trey Scarborough <mailto:t...@3dsc.co> <t...@3dsc.co> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 11:42 AM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cost of lashing onto strand This wouldn't be bad for a budgetary number it all depends on location, and what that includes. If its for a contractor that is bidding the whole construction its high for a contract crew to do just that and it includes all consumables Lashing, horseshoes, etc not bad for many urban or crap environment areas. You have to remember in some areas you have to have traffic control and a crash truck so your paying a off duty police officer and a dump truck driver to sit there in the vehicle all day and eat donuts... On 2/11/25 17:50, Adam Moffett wrote: I haven't had a quote from a contractor in front of me for about 10 years, but I remember the lashing was $0.25/foot. I just saw someone's cost analysis spreadsheet showing $1.30/ft for lashing. The actual cable is separate. The strand installation is separate. That's $1.30/ft for just lashing. Has it really gone up 5x in 10 years or is this guy getting screwed? -Adam _____ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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