Different states. Michigan is a "no fault state" so even if someone rams you while you're stopped at a red light, your insurance fixes/totals your car while their insurance does their car.
Ohio is a fault state so for some reason people are more concerned about not hitting each others' cars and the premiums are overall much lower... On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 2:27 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > Usually we hire a traffic control firm that has all the special crap and > knows the rules on how to deploy it. I familiarized myself enough with the > MUTCD to know that there are situations I'd handle myself and situations > I'd rather let someone else handle. I'm confident that with the book at > hand I could plan a perfectly regulatory compliant traffic control plan, > but there's not enough time in the day for that. > > I would hope if someone missed all the orange signs telling them to change > lanes and then plows through a line of cones into the crash truck that > THEIR insurance covers their own negligence. But you never know these > days. Maybe a lawyer will come along and say your "road work ahead" sign > was 3 inches away from the correct position and then make it your fault. > > -Adam > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof < > khoh...@kwom.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2025 2:08 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cost of lashing onto strand > > > I had to look it up. Also called truck mounted attenuators (TMAs). Like > crash barrels but driveable. Also called scorpion trucks, I guess because > they look like scorpions. > > > > I wonder if you rent one, does the rental cost include insurance for if > someone crashes into it? > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs > *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2025 12:56 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cost of lashing onto strand > > > > it's so the looky-lou's don't kill your crew. They deploy them here, even > on two-lane highways. > > On 2/13/25 10:07, Adam Moffett wrote: > > NY DOT requires them on state highways. It has a big shock absorber on > the rear end, and you park it at the rear of your work area. If someone > doesn't change lanes like they're supposed to they hit the crash truck. > > > > -Adam > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* AF *<af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>* on > behalf of Chuck McCown *<ch...@go-mtc.com> <ch...@go-mtc.com>* > *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2025 1:03 PM > *To:* *af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>* *<af@af.afmug.com> > <af@af.afmug.com>* > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cost of lashing onto strand > > > > I don’t recall ever hearing of a crash truck. New one one me. Waiting > around for an accident to clean up? > > > > *From:* Adam Moffett > > *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2025 11:25 AM > > *To:* *af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>* > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cost of lashing onto strand > > > > Fair point. The spreadsheet I saw did not itemize traffic control and > other such ancillary items. > > -Adam > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* AF *<af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>* on > behalf of Trey Scarborough *<t...@3dsc.co> <t...@3dsc.co>* > *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2025 11:42 AM > *To:* *af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>* *<af@af.afmug.com> > <af@af.afmug.com>* > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cost of lashing onto strand > > > > This wouldn't be bad for a budgetary number it all depends on location, > and what that includes. If its for a contractor that is bidding the whole > construction its high for a contract crew to do just that and it includes > all consumables Lashing, horseshoes, etc not bad for many urban or crap > environment areas. You have to remember in some areas you have to have > traffic control and a crash truck so your paying a off duty police officer > and a dump truck driver to sit there in the vehicle all day and eat > donuts... > > > > > > On 2/11/25 17:50, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I haven't had a quote from a contractor in front of me for about 10 years, > but I remember the lashing was $0.25/foot. > > > > I just saw someone's cost analysis spreadsheet showing $1.30/ft for > lashing. The actual cable is separate. The strand installation is > separate. That's $1.30/ft for just lashing. Has it really gone up 5x in > 10 years or is this guy getting screwed? > > > > -Adam > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > *AF@af.afmug.com <AF@af.afmug.com>* > *http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com>* > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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