I built Google Fiber in Salt Lake City. You would be hard pressed to know
where we did the construction if I didn’t point it out to you.
NO MESS. No damage to the street. It does not suffer in any way. No start and
end holes and mud in the gutter like HDD.
It is not road patch. It is concrete all the way to the top with mastic on to
to cushion the top of the concrete.
I just has another jurisdiction that is considering allowing microtrencing do a
drive of some of the construction I did years ago to see how it is holding up.
They noted that it was indistinguishable from the rest of the street. When a
jurisdiction wants to resurface or do a mill and fill there is no difference.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2024 9:43 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber and Microtrenching
I think you need to drive some roads if you think any road patch is smooth and
"no future repair issues".
Not saying it isn't faster by any means. I would hope it is with as much mess
as you're making.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 11:35 AM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:
You don’t have any additional issues fixing the road with microtrenching.
It is much faster and cheaper and less messy than drilling. Some of my
customers have microtrenched over 6000’ in a single shift. Try that will HDD.
The conduit is placed at the bottom of the roadbase. Absolutely no future
repair issues. The trench is filled with concrete and topped with mastic.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2024 6:29 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber and Microtrenching
Nate,
If you want to message me I can draw you up the concept on how PON is
designed. Not sure you want to be doing 1x4 splits in a small area (that's
probably too much light) and it seems like a waste of splice labor.
We drill everything - I can't imagine micro trenching and fixing the road
makes any financial sense and then the people that live there are going to be
absolutely pissed off to the point where they refuse to get your service.
On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 6:00 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
So with Gpon you could come between 2 trailers, use a 4 way splitter,
feed 2 things, then use 1 to go to the next splitter? I guess that
makes way more sense than a bunch of duct.
On 11/5/2024 4:55 PM, ch...@go-mtc.com wrote:
> We throw down 2 microducts minimum. Use one of them to daisy chain
> into the boundary between two homes. The other for spare or
> mainline/express circuits.
>
> We trench between 15 and 30 feet per minute depending on the width and
> depth of cut and depending on the type of blade and attachment.
> Current speed records have all be set with my saw attachment on a
> Vermeer RTX550 using my blades.
>
> After the duct is in the trench, you fill the trench with grout/flow
> fill/low strength concrete.
> Most places require a cap of mastic on top of the concrete but the
> concrete is good enough by itself for many applications.
>
> You can use sprinkler boxes if there is no traffic on them.
>
> Many of my customers get between 2000'-and 4000' each day. But that
> is with a fairly large crew.
>
> You go out ahead of time blocking off the road, doing core drill and
> vacuum for each place you want to branch off a lateral connection.
>
> Much easier, faster and cheaper than drilling. Plowing is always the
> best if you can do it.
>
> Lateral under sidewalks with a missile.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Chuck McCown
>
> McCown Technology Corporation
> 8401 N Commerce Dr
> Lake Point, Utah 84074
> 801-250-9503 Office
> 435-830-4306 Cell
> www.mccowntech.com
> www.microtrench.pro
> www.terabitnetworks.com
> -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2024 3:42 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber and Microtrenching
>
> The Boss and I are having an arug^H^H^H^H Discussion about installing
> fiber in a campground (Mostly permanent Singlewide units). He thinks
> that it would be too difficult to do. I contend that with
> Microtrenching down the campground roads, this would be the perfect
> deployment for Gpon Fiber.
>
> Campsites are concrete pad Road to road, no dirt runs between multiple
> trailers without lots of concrete cutting. So at most there would be 2
> trailers fed off each duct drop from the asphalt road.
>
> When you do microtrenching, do you just do a bunch of microduct, then
> break off a microduct whenever you need it? There would probably be ~20
> microducts that could run out of a central Handhole at the end of the
> street, and feed both sides of the street for 40 trailers. 20 trailers
> per side, 10 microduct drops per side 1 microduct feeding 2 trailers.
> Is that too many for a microtrench?
>
> There is an existing coax cable plant, installed in the early 80's that
> is bandaided together to provide Docsis at about 10mb/5mb, with many
> many outages. All utilities are private, unmarked, and sometimes near
> the surface.
>
> The microtrenching videos make it looks like you just advance down the
> street at a few feet per minute, with a fixed road behind you. Is it
> not that simple? I'm thinking the whole campground of 1500 spots could
> be installed in a few weeks.
>
> Anyone done campground deployments? Tree coverage makes RF not as
> feasible. Downside of fiber is that there are a handful of clearQAM TV
> Channel on the existing coax plant. That's much harder to do with fiber
> without some sort of STB agreement.
>
>
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