I think you need to drive some roads if you think any road patch is smooth
and "no future repair issues".

Not saying it isn't faster by any means.  I would hope it is with as much
mess as you're making.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 11:35 AM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

> You don’t have any additional issues fixing the road with microtrenching.
> It is much faster and cheaper and less messy than drilling.  Some of my
> customers have microtrenched over 6000’ in a single shift.  Try that will
> HDD.
>
> The conduit is placed at the bottom of the roadbase.  Absolutely no future
> repair issues.  The trench is filled with concrete and topped with mastic.
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 6, 2024 6:29 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber and Microtrenching
>
> Nate,
>
> If you want to message me I can draw you up the concept on how PON is
> designed.  Not sure you want to be doing 1x4 splits in a small area (that's
> probably too much light) and it seems like a waste of splice labor.
>
> We drill everything - I can't imagine micro trenching and fixing the road
> makes any financial sense and then the people that live there are going to
> be absolutely pissed off to the point where they refuse to get your service.
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 6:00 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>
>> So with Gpon you could come between 2 trailers, use a 4 way splitter,
>> feed 2 things, then use 1 to go to the next splitter?  I guess that
>> makes way more sense than a bunch of duct.
>>
>> On 11/5/2024 4:55 PM, ch...@go-mtc.com wrote:
>> > We throw down 2 microducts minimum.  Use one of them to daisy chain
>> > into the boundary between two homes.  The other for spare or
>> > mainline/express circuits.
>> >
>> > We trench between 15 and 30 feet per minute depending on the width and
>> > depth of cut and depending on the type of blade and attachment.
>> > Current speed records have all be set with my saw attachment on a
>> > Vermeer RTX550 using my blades.
>> >
>> > After the duct is in the trench, you fill the trench with grout/flow
>> > fill/low strength concrete.
>> > Most places require a cap of mastic on top of the concrete but the
>> > concrete is good enough by itself for many applications.
>> >
>> > You can use sprinkler boxes if there is no traffic on them.
>> >
>> > Many of my customers get between 2000'-and 4000' each day.  But that
>> > is with a fairly large crew.
>> >
>> > You go out ahead of time blocking off the road, doing core drill and
>> > vacuum for each place you want to branch off a lateral connection.
>> >
>> > Much easier, faster and cheaper than drilling.  Plowing is always the
>> > best if you can do it.
>> >
>> > Lateral under sidewalks with a missile.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Chuck McCown
>> >
>> > McCown Technology Corporation
>> > 8401 N Commerce Dr
>> > Lake Point, Utah 84074
>> > 801-250-9503 Office
>> > 435-830-4306 Cell
>> > www.mccowntech.com
>> > www.microtrench.pro
>> > www.terabitnetworks.com
>> > -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2024 3:42 PM
>> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> > Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber and Microtrenching
>> >
>> > The Boss and I are having an arug^H^H^H^H Discussion about installing
>> > fiber in a campground (Mostly permanent Singlewide units).  He thinks
>> > that it would be too difficult to do.  I contend that with
>> > Microtrenching down the campground roads, this would be the perfect
>> > deployment for Gpon Fiber.
>> >
>> > Campsites are concrete pad Road to road, no dirt runs between multiple
>> > trailers without lots of concrete cutting.  So at most there would be 2
>> > trailers fed off each duct drop from the asphalt road.
>> >
>> > When you do microtrenching, do you just do a bunch of microduct, then
>> > break off a microduct whenever you need it?  There would probably be ~20
>> > microducts that could run out of a central Handhole at the end of the
>> > street, and feed both sides of the street for 40 trailers.  20 trailers
>> > per side, 10 microduct drops per side 1 microduct feeding 2 trailers.
>> > Is that too many for a microtrench?
>> >
>> > There is an existing coax cable plant, installed in the early 80's that
>> > is bandaided together to provide Docsis at about 10mb/5mb, with many
>> > many outages.  All utilities are private, unmarked, and sometimes near
>> > the surface.
>> >
>> > The microtrenching videos make it looks like you just advance down the
>> > street at a few feet per minute, with a fixed road behind you.  Is it
>> > not that simple?  I'm thinking the whole campground of 1500 spots could
>> > be installed in a few weeks.
>> >
>> > Anyone done campground deployments?  Tree coverage makes RF not as
>> > feasible.  Downside of fiber is that there are a handful of clearQAM TV
>> > Channel on the existing coax plant.  That's much harder to do with fiber
>> > without some sort of STB agreement.
>> >
>> >
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