I would assume that the BEAD funds would just go to offset the cost of the
subscriber equipment.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 11:31 AM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

> Since you mention Starlink, answer this for me.  They have expressed
> interest in getting BEAD funds.  How does that work?  What specific
> infrastructure gets built if a state awards them BEAD money?  I’m not being
> snarky, I genuinely don’t understand what they propose to do with the money
> to bring service to those locations.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Dan P via AF
> *Sent:* Friday, August 9, 2024 11:09 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Cc:* Dan P <d...@webnx.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Hughesnet Fusion
>
>
>
> I assume hughes will die a quick death as even over subbed starlink will
> miles ahead of it, and non over subed? Well its just laughable.  We just
> recently got one of the small portable ones and damn its pretty neat when
> traveling.  I was always a fanboy from the beta days but now its getting
> pretty neat if you want to go get way off the grid and still have good i-net
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *dmmoff...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Friday, August 09, 2024 9:37 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Hughesnet Fusion
>
>
>
> Never seen it, but my employer in 2005 or so was a retailer for one-way
> satellite with dialup return.  It basically worked like that.  They
> referred to it as a “dialup return” and the literature described it as
> using dialup for the uplink only, but in practice we found a lot of stuff
> used the dialup for downlink as well.  DNS obviously, but also email
> traffic.  I don’t remember what else, but I recall we were a bit surprised
> by how much the satellite was NOT used. But if you think about it, every
> dialup connection to their data center added another 24.6k of bandwidth,
> while the satellite just is what it is.   I say 24k because presumably
> these were rural people with long loops and they were never getting 56k.
>
>
>
> Most people ended up on 2-way satellite because the cost was lower after
> you accounted for a phone line and dialup account.
>
>
>
> I guess I’m saying it’s been done before and nobody liked it then, and
> they won’t like it now.  Maybe it’s a way for Hughes to try to stay
> relevant so they can exploit the tail of the business cycle a little
> longer.
>
>
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Friday, August 09, 2024 9:54 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Hughesnet Fusion
>
>
>
> Has anyone tried (or know somebody who has) Hughesnet Fusion?
>
>
>
> The scheme to reroute latency sensitive traffic over a cellular connection
> sounds like a Rube Goldberg to me, and it seems like at that point you’d be
> better off with Starlink, or 5G Home Internet from TMo or VZW.  I mean, if
> your important traffic is going over 5G, why not just use 5G.
>
>
>
> Does it actually work as promised, for things like gaming?
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