There is a formula using trig and assuming a “specular reflection” to calculate 
vertical spacing.  But that presumes the water level is unchanging and the 
water remains smooth.   I would think if the water was rough then multipath may 
not be a problem.  



From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2024 8:37 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multipath mitigation

Yep what Forrest said, I saw someone using a 4x4 mimosa ptP link over the ocean 
and they used space diversity between two antennas at a specific spacing 

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024, 6:43 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) 
<li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

  Which SM are you running?  

  With certain MIMO radios one,  in theory, could put two antennas up instead 
of a single antenna with multiple element.

  I.e if you have a mimo sm with two horizontal and two vertical elements in be 
antenna,  you might be able to swap with two single element dual polarizaton 
antennas.    

  A lot depends on the MIMO implementation here.   

  On Sat, Jun 29, 2024, 11:14 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Is there an SM side solution for this? We have a handful of customers we 
have to go out twice a year to move their equipment up 5 feet or down 5 feet. 
In the fall, I love to point out they just harvested the field across the road, 
didnt they. theyre always "how did you know" 

    I could take the loss hit in many of these cases to do a splitter and 
diverse antennas, but would that harm or hurt more?

    Some of them we just have 2 radios installed a spring and fall radio, we 
just have them swap which ones plugged in. 2 450b SMs leaves a lot of budget 
for something that doesnt require touching

    One of you geeks has to have come up with a solution over the years other 
than truck rolls. 


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