I envision hell as a place MS engineers have to go and support their product to seniors...

When I want to be like Peter Pan and fly, my happy thought is Bill Gates having to get a big tax deal signed for the IRS in the next few minutes and he has to wait for his windows system to do updates...



On 6/29/24 10:03, Steve Jones wrote:
I LOVE Microsoft
These guys are the best
One of my favorites is making the network adapter like 30 billion clicks deep and throwing in the new network adapter settings thing that screws up nerd configs. I love it I love that OneNote was absolutely perfect and they turned it into a shitbird webapp I love that they constantly depreciate fully functional features and if they replace them its cracked out versions of its former self, totally hawt.

I cant lie, i did love that when windows 10 got pushed on us, printers that hadnt worked in forever suddenly had support, their generic print driver was pretty amazing, but thankfully in true microsoft fashion, they made sure to obliterate that in w11.

I think its like when Meta got caught trying to fuck with depressed people. Microsoft knows they are so embedded in the world that they want to keep us all slightly frustrated. I dont know if theres a conspircay associated with that or if theyre just dicks. I lean toward them just being dicks


On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 10:46 PM Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com <mailto:ryan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    I have a few hundred employees embedded into the Office 365
    infrastructure and it's not that bad. I've been a Windows
    Administrator since the NT days, migrated a school district from
    Novell Netware to AD when it was time.

    The intune management platforms are good for computers and devices
    as an MDM service. It is a little slow processing new policies due
    to it being "in the cloud".

    Sharepoint is a decent-ish document management / website portal for
    your employees. It's nice to be able to do a lot of searches into
    your company and figure out what's happening with your data.

    Outside of work I don't personally like some decisions they're
    making, like shoehorning things like "recall" into your OS. I don't
    like them fucking with my OS, and advertising. It takes a bunch of
    work to use intune policies to remove a lot of the "Cruft" out of
    the OS, especially for employees.

    I really like the Windows Susbsystem Linux. It's nice to be able to
    run a Ubuntu box on my windows machine.

    It depends what you're looking to do. I also use MacOS quite
    heavily. You should use all OS's and determine what you like about
    each one to keep your life moving forward.

    On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 4:43 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com
    <mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote:

        Oops, one more, how did I forget this one?  It kind of sums up
        all the others.____

        
https://www.howtogeek.com/my-windows-computer-just-doesnt-feel-like-mine-anymore/ 
<https://www.howtogeek.com/my-windows-computer-just-doesnt-feel-like-mine-anymore/>____

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        *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
        *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2024 6:10 PM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft____

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        We do subscribe to MS 365. Partially for the office suite of
        programs (mostly Word and Excel for us), but the main attraction
        is that we get 6TB of online backup for a measly $99/year. It's
        the best value in online backup that I know.____

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        Personally, I've been using ThunderChicken for email longer than
        I can remember.____

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        and Micro$oft has always been evil and incompetent. ____

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        This brings an old joke to mind....____


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        part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com____

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        On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 3:58 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com
        <mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote:____

            
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2376883/attention-microsoft-activates-this-feature-in-windows-11-without-asking-you.html
 
<https://www.pcworld.com/article/2376883/attention-microsoft-activates-this-feature-in-windows-11-without-asking-you.html>____

            
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/06/microsoft-removes-documentation-for-switching-to-a-local-account-in-windows-11/
 
<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/06/microsoft-removes-documentation-for-switching-to-a-local-account-in-windows-11/>____

            https://www.howtogeek.com/windows-11-start-menu-ads-how-to-turn-them-off/ 
<https://www.howtogeek.com/windows-11-start-menu-ads-how-to-turn-them-off/>____

            
https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/30/23851902/microsoft-bing-popups-windows-11-malware 
<https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/30/23851902/microsoft-bing-popups-windows-11-malware>____

            
https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/well-done-microsoft-youve-made-me-hate-windows-11-with-your-pushy-ads
 
<https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/well-done-microsoft-youve-made-me-hate-windows-11-with-your-pushy-ads>____

            ____

            Email support has gotten difficult now that people tell me
            they have a new PC with Outlook but it isn’t Outlook, it’s
            “new Outlook for Windows” which is apparently the successor
            to the Windows Mail app which was the successor to Outlook
            Express.  Outlook Express was actually a decent program,
            especially for free, but the successors are crap IMHO.  In
any case, “new Outlook” is nothing like actual Outlook. Which you have to buy as part of Microsoft Office 365.____

            ____

            *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
            <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
            *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2024 4:42 PM
            *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
            <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft____

            ____

            My Windows XP box is still pretty stable. ____

            On 6/28/2024 4:13 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:____

                Is Microsoft becoming evil, or incompetent, or both?____

                ____

                I could cite a bunch of examples, but “the new Outlook
                for Windows” comes to mind.  And Copilot, which seems
                like they brought Clippy back from the dead.  I am
                resisting the urge to type a whole bunch more annoying
                things they are doing as of late.  Even the techie media
                has been dumping on them.____

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