I think you can make a virtual pots line using an FXO and FXS adapters over
ip

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024, 7:58 AM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

> You can kinda sniff along the wire.  I would tie the pairs together at the
> far end and put the tone on it.  But the age old method is to cut it in the
> middle and see which direction the fault lies.  Ground each wire at the far
> end in sequence and identify the problem wire.  Keep cutting the bad half.
> Binary chopping.  You might be able to put tone on one wire to ground and
> sniff, or open the jacked at a mid point etc.  Find someone with an old
> fashioned copper TDR.  Do you only have 2 wire available?  Does it read
> open circuit or does it have some leakage, shorts or grounds?
>
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> *From:* Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2024 8:44 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] troubleshooting telco pairs
>
>
> Oddly, the customer’s IT guy does have Ethernet connectivity to the barns
> via wireless bridges.  But they want their barn controllers to also dial a
> list of phone numbers using the FAX line in the office.
>
>
>
> Either I’m doing something stupid, or the wire’s broken in which case it
> wasn’t working over the POTS line either.
>
>
>
> Farms can be very old school.  Don’t want eFAX.  Don’t want voicemail sent
> to email, they still use *97.  Don’t want IVRs or autoattendants or dial by
> name directory.  Don’t want computer-phone integration or softphones.  And
> yet the owner’s son drives a Tesla.
>
>
>
> If it’s really a broken wire, then it’s their problem to get it fixed, I
> just usually start from the assumption that it was working when I got there
> and I’m doing something stupid.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Daniel White
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2024 9:27 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] troubleshooting telco pairs
>
>
>
> Can you just eliminate the wire and do a wireless PtP between the two
> locations?  Even if you find the issue with the wire, if it is that
> convoluted, it sounds like an ongoing problem potentially.
>
>
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> Ken Hohhof
>
> June 5, 2024 at 1:24 AM
>
> Anybody remember your POTS troubleshooting skills?
>
>
>
> I’m trying to get an alarm system to work from a VoIP ATA over about 1000
> feet of convoluted wiring at a farm, a combination of overhead and buried.
> I get tone on my tone tracer (Tempo brand) but 0 VDC on a buttset or
> voltmeter.  It’s too far for my Fluke cable tester which is meant for data
> cables.
>
>
>
> I suspect one wire in the pair is open, but I don’t know how to check this
> with just a tone tracer.
>
>
>
> The alarm system just calls and plays a recorded voice announcement, so
> the VoIP part shouldn’t be tricky at all, not like FAX machines or alarms
> that use modems.  But it can’t even seize the line and call out.
>
>
>
>
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