20 years ago we used stuff from a weird little company called BlackBox for remote monitoring and control. Looks like they still exist and make kind of what Chuck is looking for, probably overkill though.
https://www.blackbox.com/en-in/products/by-technology/networking-solutions/alertwerks-iot-solutions From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 5:54 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Bash it is! On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 5:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote: I think the simple email alert is what we are looking for.. No NMS needed. From: castarritt Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 3:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP We've done stuff as ghetto as powering an old wrt54g through the alarm contacts and monitoring its IP address to see when it comes up and goes down. These days all of our sites have either an Alpha or ICT UPS or DC shelf that has alarm monitoring inputs. On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 4:30 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com <mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote: As long as you support SMTP AUTH, I think that should be sufficient. If necessary, someone could always create a Gmail account for this purpose. Yes, there are some older devices that expect you to set them up as an MTA rather than MUA so they can send unauthenticated SMTP on port 25. That sounds like a really bad plan to me unless you time travel back to maybe 1999. I don’t want to be creating SPF and DKIM and DMARC records for a little contact monitoring box, and it sounds like a security nightmare. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 4:13 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Some devices can be configured to send an email if a contact closes, but the way this happens varies between devices. My problem with integrating this on the the sitemonitor platform has traditionally been that you need a rule system in order to determine when to send the email. I.E. what threshold of voltage, and so on. This is obviously easy in a on/off situation, but not so much in a voltage. Plus you need additional rules so when the voltage is bouncing between 24.0 and 24.1 and you have the threshold set at 24.0 you don't get an email every time it flaps to 24.0. All of this was impossible to do on the older hardware just because of code space limitations. The Base 3 has the resources to do this, but the firmware has not yet been completed. There is a rules engine about 3/4 built for the sitemonitor system, how long until it sees the light of day, I don't know at this point. The email itself is somewhat easy but I also need to provide some sort of email server resources for those who don't have an email system which will accept email from random devices. On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 2:55 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com <mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote: Not following how you are going to use SNMP without a monitoring system. Packetflux Sitemonitor can turn a contact closure into a 1 or 0 OID that an SNMP monitoring system can check at regular intervals, mine mostly polls every 1 minute. But then you would typically have your NMS send an alert by email or text message. I tend to monitor analog parameters like voltage or current, then set trip points for the NMS to send an informative message. Like UPS input voltage at the Podunk site has been below the minimum value of 100 V for more than 2 minutes. ---- Original Message ---- From: "Chuck McCown via AF" Sent: 5/8/2024 2:41:36 PM To: "TJ Trout" , "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP So how do Forrest’s products let you know of an issue? Traps? \Would love to NOT have to have NMS just for this. From: TJ Trout Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Packet flux can do it all too, the base unit can monitor two voltages and temp and a few contact closures, if you need more volt inputs or closures you add a expansion unit. No email that I'm aware of On Wed, May 8, 2024, 12:23?PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote: No, we have fuse alarms, rectifier, inverter, and other comm equipment alarm contacts. Circuit breaker alarms. That is why historically I liked the netguardian product. It eats everything. Monitors DC voltages etc. Temps From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1:13 PM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP I think if your installed equipment all came from one vendor, there might be some way to do their proprietary monitoring solution. However, SNMP as flawed as it might be, is the only standard that is nearly universal (because some implementations are better than others). bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 5/8/2024 11:30 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: We are needing to add some monitoring of old fashioned alarm contacts in one of our sites. In the past I used Netguardians. Not sure what Forrest has. Is SNMP still the defacto NMS comm method or are there better more modern stuff out there we should be looking at? 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