Bash it is!
On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 5:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
> I think the simple email alert is what we are looking for.. No NMS
> needed.
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> *From:* castarritt
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 8, 2024 3:33 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SNMP
>
> We've done stuff as ghetto as powering an old wrt54g through the alarm
> contacts and monitoring its IP address to see when it comes up and goes
> down. These days all of our sites have either an Alpha or ICT UPS or DC
> shelf that has alarm monitoring inputs.
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 4:30 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
>
>> As long as you support SMTP AUTH, I think that should be sufficient. If
>> necessary, someone could always create a Gmail account for this purpose.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, there are some older devices that expect you to set them up as an
>> MTA rather than MUA so they can send unauthenticated SMTP on port 25. That
>> sounds like a really bad plan to me unless you time travel back to maybe
>> 1999. I don’t want to be creating SPF and DKIM and DMARC records for a
>> little contact monitoring box, and it sounds like a security nightmare.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
>> (List Account)
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 8, 2024 4:13 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SNMP
>>
>>
>>
>> Some devices can be configured to send an email if a contact closes, but
>> the way this happens varies between devices.
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>>
>> My problem with integrating this on the the sitemonitor platform has
>> traditionally been that you need a rule system in order to determine when
>> to send the email. I.E. what threshold of voltage, and so on. This is
>> obviously easy in a on/off situation, but not so much in a voltage. Plus
>> you need additional rules so when the voltage is bouncing between 24.0 and
>> 24.1 and you have the threshold set at 24.0 you don't get an email every
>> time it flaps to 24.0. All of this was impossible to do on the older
>> hardware just because of code space limitations.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Base 3 has the resources to do this, but the firmware has not yet
>> been completed. There is a rules engine about 3/4 built for the
>> sitemonitor system, how long until it sees the light of day, I don't know
>> at this point. The email itself is somewhat easy but I also need to
>> provide some sort of email server resources for those who don't have an
>> email system which will accept email from random devices.
>>
>>
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>> On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 2:55 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
>>
>> Not following how you are going to use SNMP without a monitoring system.
>>
>> Packetflux Sitemonitor can turn a contact closure into a 1 or 0 OID that
>> an SNMP monitoring system can check at regular intervals, mine mostly polls
>> every 1 minute. But then you would typically have your NMS send an alert by
>> email or text message.
>>
>> I tend to monitor analog parameters like voltage or current, then set
>> trip points for the NMS to send an informative message. Like UPS input
>> voltage at the Podunk site has been below the minimum value of 100 V for
>> more than 2 minutes.
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> From: "Chuck McCown via AF"
>> Sent: 5/8/2024 2:41:36 PM
>> To: "TJ Trout" , "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
>> Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP
>>
>> So how do Forrest’s products let you know of an issue? Traps?
>>
>>
>>
>> \Would love to NOT have to have NMS just for this.
>>
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>>
>> *From:* TJ Trout
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1:35 PM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SNMP
>>
>>
>>
>> Packet flux can do it all too, the base unit can monitor two voltages and
>> temp and a few contact closures, if you need more volt inputs or closures
>> you add a expansion unit. No email that I'm aware of
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 8, 2024, 12:23?PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> No, we have fuse alarms, rectifier, inverter, and other comm equipment
>> alarm contacts. Circuit breaker alarms. That is why historically I liked
>> the netguardian product. It eats everything. Monitors DC voltages etc.
>> Temps
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>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1:13 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SNMP
>>
>>
>>
>> I think if your installed equipment all came from one vendor, there might
>> be some way to do their proprietary monitoring solution.
>>
>> However, SNMP as flawed as it might be, is the only standard that is
>> nearly universal (because some implementations are better than others).
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 5/8/2024 11:30 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>
>> We are needing to add some monitoring of old fashioned alarm contacts in
>> one of our sites. In the past I used Netguardians. Not sure what Forrest
>> has.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is SNMP still the defacto NMS comm method or are there better more modern
>> stuff out there we should be looking at?
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>>
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>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Chuck McCown
>>
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