Got a picture at least?

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 3:35 PM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

> I tried to find a link, we have one, but I don’t know where I got it.
> Perhaps a custom fiber filter from fs.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2023 1:23 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTDR transmit power
>
> That's clever!  Nice tip, thanks.
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 3:15 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There is a band pass filter you can add for shooting over live fiber.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2023 11:27 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTDR transmit power
>>
>> On Calix optics they say it's OK if the OTDR hits it with 1650.  I don't
>> think an OTDR will shoot if it sees 1310/1490.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 1:03 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh I 100% believe they could do it.  If I knew tx power of the OTDR it
>>> would be easy to estimate how close they’d have to be to exceed the
>>> overload threshold of the transceiver.
>>>
>>> “Dynamic Range” has to be a diff between Tx and sensitivity …..or so I
>>> would assume.  If it is then I could guess that maybe half the range is
>>> from Tx and half from Rx?  So a 50dB range might mean +25Tx?  I mean that
>>> all seems plausible to me, but it’s a lot of assuming.  I just wish this
>>> number was on the spec sheet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The alleged location of the case they were in was over 200,000 ft away.
>>> A ZR is a bit sensitive, but that OTDR would have to be pretty damn strong
>>> to nuke it from that distance.  Maybe it is that strong, or maybe they’re
>>> lying to me.  So a second part of the equation is whether I trust what this
>>> crew tells me in the future.  With same guys we had a link we were
>>> troubleshooting suddenly come up 20 minutes after they were “hands off”.
>>> So I already think they might be compulsive bullshitters.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2023 11:57 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTDR transmit power
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> These guys think so:
>>>
>>> https://content.jwplatform.com/previews/IQitGvAV
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Chuck McCown
>>>
>>> McCown Technology Corporation
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>>> www.terabitnetworks.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:23 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OTDR transmit power
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how strong the pulses from an OTDR might be?  Is there
>>> a rule of thumb to guess that based on the dynamic range?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m trying to determine if a dark fiber provider might have blasted a ZR
>>> optic with an OTDR at close range.  We know they were out testing recently,
>>> and the manufacturer is saying receiver may have been overloaded and the
>>> link is way too long for the far end transceiver to have done it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m not out to blame anybody, this is just an educational exercise.
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