>From what I have read, it is more the pulse duration than output power that is 
>the hazard.  Long pulses for ultra long distance produce more accumulated 
>power in the SFP photodiode or whatever the element is that receives the 
>light.  Makes sense.

I was totally unaware that a VFD could damage anything but perhaps your eye.  



From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 11:02 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
Subject: RE: [AFMUG] OTDR transmit power

Oh I 100% believe they could do it.  If I knew tx power of the OTDR it would be 
easy to estimate how close they’d have to be to exceed the overload threshold 
of the transceiver.  

“Dynamic Range” has to be a diff between Tx and sensitivity …..or so I would 
assume.  If it is then I could guess that maybe half the range is from Tx and 
half from Rx?  So a 50dB range might mean +25Tx?  I mean that all seems 
plausible to me, but it’s a lot of assuming.  I just wish this number was on 
the spec sheet.

 

The alleged location of the case they were in was over 200,000 ft away.  A ZR 
is a bit sensitive, but that OTDR would have to be pretty damn strong to nuke 
it from that distance.  Maybe it is that strong, or maybe they’re lying to me.  
So a second part of the equation is whether I trust what this crew tells me in 
the future.  With same guys we had a link we were troubleshooting suddenly come 
up 20 minutes after they were “hands off”.  So I already think they might be 
compulsive bullshitters.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 11:57 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTDR transmit power

 

These guys think so:

https://content.jwplatform.com/previews/IQitGvAV

 

Best Regards,
Chuck McCown

McCown Technology Corporation 
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro
www.terabitnetworks.com

 

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:23 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: [AFMUG] OTDR transmit power

 

Does anyone know how strong the pulses from an OTDR might be?  Is there a rule 
of thumb to guess that based on the dynamic range?

 

I’m trying to determine if a dark fiber provider might have blasted a ZR optic 
with an OTDR at close range.  We know they were out testing recently, and the 
manufacturer is saying receiver may have been overloaded and the link is way 
too long for the far end transceiver to have done it.

 

I’m not out to blame anybody, this is just an educational exercise.


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