It was only because we had people like Eric Swalwell and Adam Schiff and Raskin that Trump didn't get what he wanted and tried for.  Even broken, our government managed to keep that sicko from succeeding.

On 3/24/23 15:14, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Karl Marx
Lenin
Stalin
Putin
Pretty sure those dudes were far worst than Trump
Even Castro
Kim Jong Un
Seriously you thing the far left are better?
*From:* Darin Steffl
*Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2023 3:54 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Cc:* Chuck McCown
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
The extreme left is still better than the extreme right.
I don't agree with either sides' extremes but if I had to pick one side, everyone being taken care of, like socialism, I'd pick that over the extreme right who wants to murder anyone different than them. Like far right pastors and supporters who call for violence and murder of gay people, people of color, and liberals. I can find thousands of posts and video from Republicans calling for sick things but very few liberals saying the same things. I don't see far left people calling for violence and murder of people they disagree with. So while there are two sides, one side is better than the other, as in less violent and extreme. I'd take free college for all, free Healthcare, and more from the extreme left over the extreme right who wants to ban books, kill people they disagree with, try to overturn elections, cheat, lie, steal, etc. Again, the left is the better choice when it comes to empathy and taking care of people. While an average republican might not agree with the far right, their silence is the same as being complicit in their sick beliefs. At least an average Democrat calls out the far left people like I do. I don't agree in wiping out all student loans, for example. And I've contacted democrats I've voted for to voice my opinions. I don't see Republicans calling out far right politicians who are spewing hate everyday. I wish they would but since they aren't, I assume they agree with the hate speech and calls for violence. The right is far sicker than the left in every regard. Donald being elected over Hillary will go down in history as one of the worst political events in our country. We would be a much nicer and stable country if Hillary won. The racists, bigots, and violent people would mostly be hiding still but Donald gave them permission to act out their hate when he was elected. It's very sad. People who still support Donald are bullies and hate America at this point.
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

    Ouchie!
    You called me the C word...
    *From:* Robert
    *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2023 3:32 PM
    *To:* af@af.afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
    exactly this...  What I have learned is there is such a thing as a
    good cult, which is what I consider the Mormon church to be.  They
    have a few extreme points of view but on the whole they treat
    everyone ( now including other races ) reasonably...   And they
    care about kids and back it up.

    On 3/24/23 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
    I loved what the Gov of Utah told a bunch of school kids yesterday.
    “Republicans are wrong about Democratsand Democrats are wrong
    about Republicans. Why? Here’s why — because, what we’re doing
    now is we’re only listening to the most extreme voices in those
    parties. So Republicans are only listening to the craziest
    Democrats and assuming that all Democrats are like that.
    Democrats are only listening to the craziest Republicans and
    assuming all Republicans are like that. When the difference
    between the average Democrat and the average Republican, really
    isn’t that big.”
    *From:* Mike Hammett
    *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2023 12:37 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
    There's no meaningful difference between authoritarian left and
    authoritarian right, which are what catch the most attention.



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    To be fair, anything left leaning is better for humanity. The
    right doesn't seem to care about anyone different than them.
    There's very little empathy from the right so if AI is here, it's
    best that it cares about all people in the information it provides.
    Don't bite my head off. I'm socially liberal and fiscally
    conservative. I care about all people, even if I don't like them.
    On Thu, Mar 23, 2023, 6:25 PM Steve Jones
    <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

        
https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/23/openai-connects-chatgpt-to-the-internet/
        I have to admit, Ive been using the shit out of chatgpt, from
        writing configs, to search engine replacement that actually
        answers questions, and just general fuckery to see what I can
        get it to do. It wont kill engineers or turn off exhaust
        systems in the building if you were curious. It does have a
        massive left leaning political bias.
        But some of the stuff it couldnt do because it wasnt
        connected to the internet, so now ill be back at it. I hope i
        can get it to do some wargames stuff.
        ...
        would you like to play a game

        Sure, I would love to play a game with you! What game would
        you like to play?

        Steve Jones
        global thermo nuclear warfare

        I'm sorry, but I cannot play a game of global thermonuclear
        warfare with you as it is not a real game, but rather a
        fictional concept popularized by the 1983 film "WarGames."
        Additionally, it is not appropriate to simulate a scenario
        involving nuclear weapons as it could be potentially harmful
        and insensitive to those affected by nuclear weapons in the
        past. Is there another game you would like to play instead?''

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