A long time ago I settled on an SLA battery + inverter in a backpack.  Then you 
just plug in whatever equipment you need into the inverter.

It’s not as light and slick as some of the other ideas out there, but there’s 
not much you can’t plug into an inverter. 

 

Or get a Tycon PoE with 12V DC input.  Lighter than an inverter, and still 
going to power almost anything you have.

https://www.tyconsystems.com/tp-dc-1256gd-bt

Keep the inverter around for those occasions when you have something that isn’t 
PoE.

 

And get a set of inverter cables with alligator clamps so you can run off of 
your vehicle’s battery.

 

 

 

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2023 8:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tiny PCB Ethernet Gigabit Switches

 

Hey TJ, 

Sorry for the late reply, I’ve been MIA for a few days!

 

No the BN cannot accept PoE as your observations are correct, the power 
requirements exceed the safe capacity of CATx cable. All cables into the BN 
connect through Harding brand connectors. The BN can however negotiate down to 
1 gig eth.

 

The SOB project has hit another snag with powering the BNs in that the battery 
we’re using can’t support that much wattage either; it tops out at ~75 watts. 
The present SOB build is powering RNs (over PoE 40+ watts) and works well.

 

Looks like we’ll be making something specific to battery power the BN instead 
of having a one-device does all solution.

 

Scott





On Feb 25, 2023, at 01:21, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com <mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > 
wrote:

 

Can the Tarana BN use poe? or do you have some external adapters? What gauge of 
cat cable are you using for 350w?

 

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 3:42 PM Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@ezwave.com 
<mailto:sc...@ezwave.com> > wrote:

Dennis, 

Thanks for all the info, what you’re working on sounds really amazing. I’d be 
very interested to see your upcoming product. >From what you’re describing the 
802.3BT standard will work fine for a Tarana RN, but would be insufficient to 
power a Tarana BN. Also keep in mind that both the RN and BNs will require a 
gig eth port or higher as they cannot negotiate to anything lower. 
Incidentally, I learned yesterday that Tarana is developing their own survey 
tool and accompanying app that they hope to release Q2. I’ve attached a PDF 
with some brief details.

 

Incidentally, on the SOB we’ve scripted the mAP to parse IP neighbors and its 
ARP table, create a static dns, and then dst nat that discovered IP. This makes 
managing whatever device is plugged into the SOB, regardless of manufacture, 
provisioned, or defaulted, easily accessible through a .local URL. The field 
tech doesn’t need to remember default IPs or mess around with subnets etc., 
just browse to the .local URL from their device and they’re in. I’ve never used 
a PowerLink device, so you may already be doing something like this- but we 
think it’s a cool feature.

 

Wishing you all the best,

Scott

 





On Feb 24, 2023, at 14:46, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net 
<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net> > wrote:

 

The max by any standard including the BT standard is 71.3 watts to the device, 
…  Most of Type3, or 51 watts to the device (60 watt port). So I don’t know 
what you are talking about requiring 350 watts. 

 

Maybe that may be the max POE out budget of a small switch,  but still.

 

We are still in development for a 802.3BT Type 3, device, we actually have the 
POE stuff done, just working on battery life and some extras that was 
requested.  We are hoping by 2nd quarter this year we will have a PowerLink BT 
out that will do 802.3bt Type 3.  Specifically for Tarana CPES.  

 

 

 

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<http://www.towercoverage.com> 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2023 2:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tiny PCB Ethernet Gigabit Switches

 

Why do you need 350 watts for an SM to survey with?

 

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 2:23 PM Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@ezwave.com 
<mailto:sc...@ezwave.com> > wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion; the PowerLink looks cool and compact. 

I need 4-pair 48v PoE at 350 watts and a gig port; as far as I can tell the 
PowerLink can’t handle that wattage or gig port.

 

On Feb 24, 2023, at 07:56, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

 

Just plug in a PowerLink.  Problem solved.

 

On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 11:04 PM Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@ezwave.com 
<mailto:sc...@ezwave.com> > wrote:

Since the list is quiet...

 

I’ve been developing a new compact battery survey tool and had need for a tiny 
gigabit switch. I discovered BotBlox, a company in the UK, whom has developed 
some creative and extremely compact switching solutions. The website and 
products has a Packetflux feel (which I like).

 



 
<https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=https%3a%2f%2fbotblox.io%2fcollections%2fstandard%2dseries&umid=9B53DE0A-F579-E705-901F-BB79B5A19EC6&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-980d23835d3c600ceff0ad6dd803b250ffff7558>
 Products - Standard Series - BotBlox

 
<https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=https%3a%2f%2fbotblox.io%2fcollections%2fstandard%2dseries&umid=9B53DE0A-F579-E705-901F-BB79B5A19EC6&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-980d23835d3c600ceff0ad6dd803b250ffff7558>
 botblox.io

 
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Thought I’d pass along the resource.

 

Scott

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