Time to either identify as a black male teen or hire one as a beard.
From: Carl Peterson Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 1:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW Josh - has a lot more to do with who "you" are. Black male teen is likely more like 1/5. 45yo white guy in a good neighborhood is more likely to get ripped on conduit fees and taxes. I actually live in MN now but my office is still in Baltimore. On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 1:43 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: Isn't Baltimore known for its massive growth? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Baltimore >The American city of Baltimore, Maryland, is notorious for its crime rate, which ranks well above the national average. >Your chance of being a victim of violent crime in Baltimore is 1 in 64 and property crime is 1 in 33 Holy jesus that's way worse than what I had in mind. On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 2:12 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: I picked a pretty much random residential block in Baltimore. 225ft long. 30 buildings (counting both sides of the street). There are typically 1 or 2 mailboxes on each building. If I assume 1.5 units per building then there 45 passings (and it’s probably not that many in reality). If that $3.33/ft is per month ….then some back of the napkin math tells me you’d pretty much have to hook up every single house to make that worthwhile. Which means this rule guarantees a monopoly in Baltimore forever. Come on guys WTF. From: dmmoff...@gmail.com <dmmoff...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2023 1:57 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW $3.33 one time, or recurring? From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2023 12:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW Baltimore City won't give you ROW access any sort of way. They want you to pay $3.33 per foot to use their conduit system. If you need new duct you need to build it, give it to them, and pay $3.33 per foot to use it. We were in the process of leveraging Title II to force them to give us access to run our own ducts under sidewalks when Title II got yanked back in 2017. That's a big part of why we left WISPA. We just gave up on the idea and bought a company in FL and started running fiber. On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 10:49 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: Yep, a larger town in my area wanted as much for the ROW access as it would cost to buy the fiber and conduit. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:33 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: syssup Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW Getting CLEC does *NOT* remove all confusion. In my case, a village has no permits (of any kind), no understanding of ROW, wanted to charge us rent to access the space, etc. In others' experience, I've heard DOT/county being extraordinarily difficult to work with to issue a permit. On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 10:20 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote: We got setup as a CLEC to remove all confusion. If you are planning on being in the fiber business, quit messing around and do it right. Jim Bouse Owner - Brazos WiFi 979-999-7000 http://www.brazoswifi.com -----Original Message----- From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Larry Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:03 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; syssup <sys...@ecsis.net> Subject: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW Question for those more in tune than I. We are working (attempting) with our local electric company for access to their ROW for some of our fiber and they have stated that the rights granted ISP's under Title II (telecommunications provider) in 2015 was reversed in 2017 and then in 2018 ISP's were put back as "information" services removing any Title II rights and reverting them to Title I only. Escentially they are saying we have to be a LEC or CLEC to get access. 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