Josh - has a lot more to do with who "you" are. Black male teen is likely more like 1/5. 45yo white guy in a good neighborhood is more likely to get ripped on conduit fees and taxes. I actually live in MN now but my office is still in Baltimore.
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 1:43 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > Isn't Baltimore known for its massive growth? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Baltimore > >The American city of Baltimore, Maryland, is notorious for its crime > rate, which ranks well above the national average. > > >Your chance of being a victim of violent crime in Baltimore is 1 in 64 > and property crime is 1 in 33 > > Holy jesus that's way worse than what I had in mind. > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 2:12 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I picked a pretty much random residential block in Baltimore. 225ft >> long. 30 buildings (counting both sides of the street). There are >> typically 1 or 2 mailboxes on each building. If I assume 1.5 units per >> building then there 45 passings (and it’s probably not that many in >> reality). >> >> If that $3.33/ft is per month ….then some back of the napkin math tells >> me you’d pretty much have to hook up every single house to make that >> worthwhile. >> >> >> >> Which means this rule guarantees a monopoly in Baltimore forever. Come >> on guys WTF. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2023 1:57 PM >> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* RE: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW >> >> >> >> $3.33 one time, or recurring? >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2023 12:00 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW >> >> >> >> Baltimore City won't give you ROW access any sort of way. They want you >> to pay $3.33 per foot to use their conduit system. If you need new duct >> you need to build it, give it to them, and pay $3.33 per foot to use it. We >> were in the process of leveraging Title II to force them to give us access >> to run our own ducts under sidewalks when Title II got yanked back in >> 2017. That's a big part of why we left WISPA. We just gave up on the idea >> and bought a company in FL and started running fiber. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 10:49 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >> wrote: >> >> Yep, a larger town in my area wanted as much for the ROW access as it >> would cost to buy the fiber and conduit. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:33 AM >> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> >> *Cc:* syssup >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW >> >> >> >> Getting CLEC does *NOT* remove all confusion. >> >> >> >> In my case, a village has no permits (of any kind), no understanding of >> ROW, wanted to charge us rent to access the space, etc. >> >> >> >> In others' experience, I've heard DOT/county being extraordinarily >> difficult to work with to issue a permit. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 10:20 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] < >> j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote: >> >> We got setup as a CLEC to remove all confusion. If you are planning on >> being in the fiber business, quit messing around and do it right. >> >> Jim Bouse >> Owner - Brazos WiFi >> 979-999-7000 >> http://www.brazoswifi.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Larry Smith >> Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:03 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; syssup < >> sys...@ecsis.net> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW >> >> >> Question for those more in tune than I. >> >> We are working (attempting) with our local electric company for access to >> their ROW for some of our fiber and they have stated that the rights >> granted ISP's under Title II (telecommunications provider) in 2015 was >> reversed in 2017 and then in 2018 ISP's were put back as "information" >> services removing any Title II rights and reverting them to Title I only. >> Escentially they are saying we have to be a LEC or CLEC to get access. >> >> Anyone have a good answer for this ?? >> >> -- >> Larry Smith >> lesm...@ecsis.net >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carl Peterson >> >> *PORT NETWORKS* >> >> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >> >> Baltimore, MD 21202 >> >> (410) 637-3707 >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
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