Well, if you slice up a pie everybody gets pie, but if you slice up a football 
then nobody can play.

 

If you’re looking at a rural community with a few hundred to a couple thousand 
households, and you make service open access then there may be not enough 
customers for any one provider to build a business around.  It may be more like 
slicing the football than the pie.  You’ll end up with a big company monopoly 
anyway because the bigger company can afford to operate at a loss and wait for 
the one-man bands to go out of business.

 

I’m not saying it’s a bad idea, I’m just saying I don’t think it’s a one size 
fits all solution.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of lists gogebicrange.net
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Proposes $62 Million penalty against Q Link Wireless 
for violation of EBB program rules

 

Forest, 

I agree with your idea. The main problem is that we have lobbyists in this 
country and there is way to much money to be made building subsidized 
proprietary fiber. Wow I am sinical in my middle age!

Brandon

 

 

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Of Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 7:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Proposes $62 Million penalty against Q Link Wireless 
for violation of EBB program rules

 

Not exactly the same type of subsidy program, but I'm starting to belive that 
the government needs to migrate almost all of the build out subsidies to put 
equal access fiber in the ground.  That is,  the subsidy is only for the fiber 
build.  

 

 Single strand or two from each house to a concentrator box and then a 
excessive number of backhaul/middle mile strands.  Then any isp can use the 
resources that are built.  The price to use the resources must be effectively 
zero and rules must be in place to limit the percentage of middle mile strands 
that a single provider can use. 

 

You get paid if you build to spec.   Once it's been independently verified that 
you built it then you get paid.   Not before. 

 

Eliminates fraud and Eliminates the government subsidizing one provider which 
often eliminates the possibility of competition.  Makes it easy for a provider 
to enter an area (drop a OLT in a cabinet).

 

There are several countries (some rural) that adopted this pattern with good 
results.  Obviously the details would matter here,  but I'm tired of programs 
that have so many rules that only the big providers can really apply.  Or if 
you do win as a small provider the cost to operate inside the grant guidelines 
often make it not worth it. 

 

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 5:12 PM Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net 
<mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net> > wrote:

ditto that one

On 1/22/23 13:54, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

 

 

interesting reading.  glad we didn't participate in the connected device program

 

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To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>  

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 9:12 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Proposes $62 Million penalty against Q Link Wireless 
for violation of EBB program rules

 

Weird stuff to redact. Seems this should all be public info since it was the 
publics money. Monetary recompense is nice and all, but until we start 
executing owners in the town square, violently, every program will be scam 
full. Maybe we dont execute everybody, but we cut off their hands that were in 
the cookie jar and use images of their nubs to remind would be thieves that 
their ability to rub one out will be greatly diminished. Could even offset some 
of the pilfered funds through auctions of their fingers and various hand bones.

 

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 <https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-23-2A1.pdf> docs.fcc.gov

        

 <https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-23-2A1.pdf> So many redactions, 
it’s like reading the Mueller report.

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