Agreed.   And if it's on the ethernet side, just adding some ferrite chokes
to the power line might fix the problem.   Or switching to shielded cable.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2023, 7:52 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Step 1 is to figure out where your packet loss is coming from.  If it's
> interference on the RF side, changing to a DC plant is a complete waste of
> time/money.
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 9:21 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Usually when people say "DC plant" they mean a rectifier.  A charger +
>> inverter like you proposed would probably also count as having DC power
>> plant.
>> I used one of these once:
>> https://www.aimscorp.net/12-Volt-Pure-Sine-Inverter-Chargers/
>> Worked fine, but no remote management.  I'm sure there are a dozen
>> options out there to pick from.
>>
>> An isolation transformer might be a less intrusive change.  Tripp Lite
>> makes some affordable ones.  On the trip lite ones I had the hot and
>> neutral were isolated, but the ground passed straight through.  Depending
>> on where the noise is coming from that might not fix it, but you can test
>> an isolated ground by snapping off the ground prong on the transformer or
>> using a 2-prong adapter.  I say "test" because you shouldn't run without a
>> ground permanently.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs
>> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2023 3:41 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower
>>
>> It's in a parking-lot of a business and they started plugging their food
>> truck into the power-source.  So what do you mean by "DC plant"?
>>
>> On 1/8/23 12:20, Bill Prince wrote:
>> > If your site is 100% DC-powered, the batteries should provide all the
>> > isolation you need. My suggestion is to just switch to DC plant.
>> >
>> >
>> > bp
>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >
>> > On 1/8/2023 11:21 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
>> >> Ever since a food truck started plugging their truck into the same
>> >> power source we use we've been experiencing severe packet loss
>> >> through it.  Possibly electrical motor-hum?  Anyway, I'm wondering
>> >> what is available or suggested to use to place a better electrical
>> >> isolation for a battery backup in the box on the tower.
>> >>
>> >> We're using two ubiquiti radios one cheap ubiquiti router and a Cisco
>> >> fiber to ether-net router.  We have a cyberpower 450va that provides
>> >> power for less than an hour when we have a power outage. It would be
>> >> better if we could use something more hefty.  The NEMA box is 2ft x
>> >> 2ft x 8in.  Inside is 2ft x 2ft x 6in.  So there isn't much room.
>> >>
>> >> I'm thinking maybe a stack of batteries, a charger and a sine-wave
>> >> invertor?  Unless someone knows of a product that would do what's
>> >> needed?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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