You have the proper name…..Ctl Req Success was how I labeled my chart.

 

In any case, I’m reasonably sure it’s showing the % of upload bandwidth 
requests which were handled successfully.  Those requests come in during the 
control slot using a contention based method.  So it’s possible to have 
collisions during that period and you’ll see that as jitter.

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2022 11:25 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Timing

 

is 1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.1.12.1.19.0 frUtlLowIntervalBwReqPercentage or Ctl Req 
Success?  

 

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:44 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The value to watch for that is Ctl Req Success.  OID 
1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.1.12.1.19.0

Even with 8 control slots I see that fall to 70% or so at peak times on the 
busier AP’s.  That means some of the SM’s were not able to request an upload 
timeslot, which means whatever they’re wanting to upload is waiting for at 
least another frame.  If it’s realtime traffic (VOIP) then the delay might 
matter.

 

I’ll pass the conch to whoever wants to argue for lower control slots, but I 
made my choice and I’m sticking to it.

 

 

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>  <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2022 10:34 AM
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Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Cambium Timing

 

1.      Some AP’s have few SM’s, some have many SM’s.  I need timing to match 
either way.
2.      Contention over control slots could cause jitter.  I don’t want jitter, 
and there’s not that much cost to having a few more control slots….see point 3.
3.      There’s only a 4% difference between 1 control slot and 8 control 
slots.  If you want to fight for that 4% then go for it, but channel size and 
frame size are the battles I really want to win.

 

 

 

 

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Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2022 10:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Timing

 

Why 8 control slots?  Cambium recommends starting with 8 for over 150 subs per 
sector which seems like an insane number of subs on anything but M.  

 

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:15 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

In case it’s not obvious, the 5mhz “receive start” happens before the 30mhz 
“transmit end”.  So the 30mhz AP is going to cause uplink interference on the 
5mhz AP…..assuming there’s channel overlap.

 

 

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<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2022 10:10 AM
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Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Cambium Timing

 

I don’t know specifically how.

 

But here’s frame calculator result for 30mhz, 75%, 10 miles, 8 control slots:
AP Antenna Transmit End : 34161, 3.416176 ms
AP Antenna Receive Start : 36530, 3.653073 ms
AP Antenna Receive End : 49175

 

Now same at 5mhz:

AP Antenna Transmit End : 27916, 2.791688 ms
AP Antenna Receive Start : 30551, 3.055120 ms
AP Antenna Receive End : 49104

 

Not even close to a match.  If you haven’t been adjusting for channel size 
you’d better double check yours.

 

 

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Of castarritt
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2022 10:04 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Timing

 

How does channel width affect timing?

 

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 7:39 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes, those all match.  The new challenge is comparing different channel sizes.  

 

 

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Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2022 11:14 AM
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Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium Timing

 

We still have our cambium network timed as if it were collocated with legacy 
100 gear but the 100 gear is long gone so I'm looking to re-time everything. 

 

Not finding colocation info about 450M, 450, 450i.  Is timing all the same on 
them?  Seems to be but I haven't done this in over a decade.  


 

 

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