I don't want to read into anything, but my Ticket at Cambium has been open for a week an a half, and they have ask for no additional information, and just keep updating me that's its being worked internally.  That sounds like they know the problem exists and haven't been able to track down the cause yet.

On 3/24/2022 2:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Did Cambium give you the back door key to troubleshoot these kinds of issues?

I worked with Dmitry to find an extremely weird bug on the 3000 light omni - went as far as to solder an rs232 jack on it.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 11:21 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

    Took 5 days for the issue to surface again.  It seems that any
    change to the EPMP AP that causes a radio reset will clear the
    issue.  But disassociating or rebooting the SM will not.  The last
    time I changed the 'Reliable multicast' setting and it started
    working.  This time I changed the frame size from 2.5ms to 5ms and
    it started working.  But both of those changes caused the RF to
    reset, so I don't think that it's the setting so much as something
    in the AP network/rf stack getting reset.  I'll open a ticket with
    Cambium, but as infrequent as it is, I'm not sure what they'll be
    able to find.

    On 3/22/2022 11:17 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
    It has not happened again since Saturday, but that's the only AP
    out of the hundred deployed that I set that 'reliable multicast'
    setting on.  I think that it did cause an RF Drop when that
    setting was changed, so maybe just kicking the radio from the AP
    would be enough?  Every other site with the issue had multiple
    sectors, so kicking the SM From one AP would have it attach to
    another AP at the site and it would start working.  However
    rebooting the SM and it attaching back to the same AP does not
    fix it.  Need to wait another couple days for it to happen again
    to do some more testing.Â

    On 3/22/2022 7:59 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:

    Interesting.  I think that initial offer is a broadcast
    packet…..maybe that “reliable multicast†setting affects
    broadcast as well?

    Â

    *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
    *Sent:* Saturday, March 19, 2022 7:38 AM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 and DHCP failures

    Â

    I was able to get a packet capture while it while it was
    happening.  Client had been running fine for about 3 days
    before it started erroring (3 hour DHCP Lease).  Nothing was
    logged with the firewall rules on the Mikrotik doing the DHCP
    Server.

    I have a mikrotik between the 450SM an the EPMP AP, I was able
    to run a packet capture from there.  I ran it on the interface
    of the EPMP radio.  It was showing the DHCP Discover being sent
    to the Server, and the DHCP Offer being sent back to the client,
    but that was it, no DHCP Request Packet coming from the EPMP
    Interface.Â

    On the EPMP AP,  I changed the 'Reliable Multicast' from
    Disabled to Enabled.  And the client immediately got a DHCP
    lease after saving that (No AP Reboot).  The DHCP Request
    Packet came back from the client as soon as the Discover/offer
    packets were sent.  I'm not convinced that was the issue, as I
    don't have it enabled on ay other EPMP radio on the network. 
    It seemed more like making a change in the AP reset something in
    the EPMP network stack.  It's just strange that it happens so
    randomly.

    On 3/14/2022 7:24 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

        The mikrotik that handles the dhcp relay or dhcp, log any
        input firewall rules and see if its dropping the packets

        Â

        On Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 7:03 PM Nate Burke
        <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

            Just had it happen on a newly installed
            EPMP1000<->EPMP1000 link.  AP and SM are both 2.4
            non-GPS radios.  Feed to site is a 450B off a450M AP. 
            Relay from barn to house using 2.4 EPMP 1000 radios.Â

            Was working fine when I left,  3 hours later, DHCP
            lease timed out (Mikrotik DHCP Lease time) and would not
            get new lease. Rebooting the 1000 Radio acting as the
            AP fixed it.  If it happens again, I'll try to get a
            packetcapture off it.

            On 3/9/2022 10:14 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

                the mikrotik is dhcp relay, BMI is the dhcp server

                Â

                On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 10:07 AM Josh Luthman
                <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

                    Oh this is on the DHCP server, sorry.

                    Â

                    On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 10:31 AM Steve Jones
                    <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

                        we have to have it for dhcp relay to keep
                        functioning. otherwise it periodically stops
                        working from EPMP APs, I never knew why,
                        mikrotik had no answer, but it would
                        suddenly get caught up in non ACL drops add
                        action=accept chain=input comment="ALLOW
                        DHCP UDP 67" dst-port=67 log-prefix=dhcp
                        protocol=udp

                        Â

                        On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 8:12 AM Josh Luthman
                        <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

                            The input chain is to the Mikrotik
                            itself, ie the IP address that it would
                            theoretically get from the DHCP server.Â
                            I was thinking of a managed Mikrotik as
                            a demarc to the customer's stuff (so
                            forward chain).

                            Â

                            On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 7:57 PM Steve
                            Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

                                I had this issue a long time ago, id
                                like to think that it was a firmware
                                revision that resolved the issue,
                                but it was a long time ago and im
                                partially retarded.Â

                                If you have a mikrotik, add an input
                                rule allow udp 67. Just for kicks.
                                It might be this issue that i have
                                that policy for.

                                Â

                                On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, 4:22 PM Josh
                                Luthman
                                <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

                                    Raise a ticket with Cambium and
                                    explain the situation?  If you
                                    could get pcap that would show
                                    what's missing.  Do you have a
                                    Tik behind any SM with the issue
                                    by chance?

                                    Â

                                    On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 4:05 PM
                                    Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com>
                                    wrote:

                                        No DHCP Relay, just local
                                        DHCP Server on the mikrotik
                                        on the bridge that all the
                                        AP's are part of.

                                        No MAC limit on the SM'sÂ

                                        When it exhibits itself, a
                                        customer who has been
                                        running for weeks will
                                        timeout their lease, and the
                                        mikrotik will just go to
                                        'offered'Â Rebooting the AP
                                        always fixes it.Â

                                        On 3/8/2022 1:18 PM,
                                        dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:

                                            I was wondering about
                                            broadcast rate limit. 
                                            That would apply to a
                                            DHCP discover, but not
                                            to a renewal. ….but
                                            either the MAC limit or
                                            broadcast limit would
                                            clear when rebooting the
                                            SM, and he says
                                            rebooting the SM has no
                                            effect.

                                            Â

                                            Is DHCP running on the
                                            port that the AP is
                                            plugged into, or is
                                            there a DHCP relay involved?

                                            Â

                                            Â

                                            *From:* AF
                                            <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
                                            <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
                                            *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
                                            *Sent:* Tuesday, March
                                            08, 2022 12:43 PM
                                            *To:* AnimalFarm
                                            Microwave Users Group
                                            <af@af.afmug.com>
                                            <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
                                            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
                                            EPMP1000 and DHCP failures

                                            Â

                                            Do you have the SM
                                            limited on MACs?  Look
                                            at Ethernet Port
                                            Security on config >
                                            network.

                                            Â

                                            On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at
                                            12:32 PM Nate Burke
                                            <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

                                                I've experienced
                                                this issue randomly,
                                                and haven't been
                                                able to track
                                                down a cause.Â
                                                Wondering if anyone
                                                else has come across
                                                something similar.

                                                Mikrotik DHCP
                                                Server. EPMP1000
                                                GPS AP,  Force 300 SM.

                                                At a random time,
                                                one or More Force
                                                300 SM's on the AP
                                                will lose the
                                                ability to hand out
                                                a DHCP Address to
                                                the client.  The
                                                Mikrotik just
                                                shows 'Offered'

                                                Rebooting or
                                                powercycling the SM
                                                has no effect.  If
                                                the SM Connects to a
                                                different sector,
                                                then DHCP is
                                                immediately handed
                                                out. If the AP
                                                reboots, and the SM
                                                reconnects, then
                                                DHCP is immediately
                                                handed out. If
                                                the SM is set for
                                                NAT mode, it can get
                                                a DHCP Address just
                                                fine, but
                                                switching back to
                                                bridge, the Customer
                                                router will not get
                                                DHCP.

                                                I've experienced
                                                this from 4.4.3 all
                                                the way up to
                                                4.6.3.  It always
                                                seems to be an
                                                EPMP1000 AP with a
                                                Foce300 SM, but does
                                                not affect every
                                                Force300 SM at the
                                                same time.

                                                At least now I know
                                                when I start having
                                                this problem to go
                                                reboot the AP.

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