I think its something in the way the packet is altered when traversing the
bridge. I always wondered if the randomness had to do with some other
consumer router on that node doing some weird thing that AP isolation
should not let happen but does. Once I found that the firewall rule
resolved it I just implemented it on all the site mikrotiks since I
couldnt replicate it.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:38 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

> I have not had this problem with any Mikrotik Customer routers, but it
> happens so rarely.  It's happened on about 4 AP's across my entire network
> in the last year.
>
> The first time I experienced it was last summer during an install, The
> customers router refused to get a DHCP Lease, as did my field laptop.
> Other routers behind other SM's were getting DHCP Leases just fine.  We
> changed the SM and it still would not DHCP.  I ended up putting that SM
> into NAT mode, and that worked with DHCP Just fine.
>
> A few months later we installed a customer at another site.  The customer
> ran fine for about 2 months, then starting having this issue about every 2
> weeks.  Reboot the AP, or push the Customer SM to another AP would solve
> the problem.  We ended up replacing the AP with an EPMP2000 to save the
> customer, since we were 'always' down.  Customer had a Netgear router, and
> has not had an issue since changing the AP.
>
> 3rd Site had a customer with an Apple Airport, put the SM into NAT mode
> and it worked fine.  No issues with any other customers at the site.
>
> 4th site just happened this week.  TP-Link Deco unit.  The only thing I
> did was reboot the AP and that fixed it.
>
> It's just so random and strange, I was hoping I wasn't the only one having
> this.
>
> On 3/9/2022 8:11 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> The input chain is to the Mikrotik itself, ie the IP address that it would
> theoretically get from the DHCP server.  I was thinking of a managed
> Mikrotik as a demarc to the customer's stuff (so forward chain).
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 7:57 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I had this issue a long time ago, id like to think that it was a firmware
>> revision that resolved the issue, but it was a long time ago and im
>> partially retarded.
>> If you have a mikrotik, add an input rule allow udp 67. Just for kicks.
>> It might be this issue that i have that policy for.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, 4:22 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Raise a ticket with Cambium and explain the situation?  If you could get
>>> pcap that would show what's missing.  Do you have a Tik behind any SM with
>>> the issue by chance?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 4:05 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No DHCP Relay, just local DHCP Server on the mikrotik on the bridge
>>>> that all the AP's are part of.
>>>>
>>>> No MAC limit on the SM's
>>>>
>>>> When it exhibits itself, a customer who has been running for weeks will
>>>> timeout their lease, and the mikrotik will just go to 'offered'  Rebooting
>>>> the AP always fixes it.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/8/2022 1:18 PM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering about broadcast rate limit.  That would apply to a DHCP
>>>> discover, but not to a renewal.  ….but either the MAC limit or broadcast
>>>> limit would clear when rebooting the SM, and he says rebooting the SM has
>>>> no effect.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is DHCP running on the port that the AP is plugged into, or is there a
>>>> DHCP relay involved?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com><af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
>>>> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2022 12:43 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 and DHCP failures
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you have the SM limited on MACs?  Look at Ethernet Port Security on
>>>> config > network.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 12:32 PM Nate Burke < <n...@blastcomm.com>
>>>> n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've experienced this issue randomly, and haven't been able to track
>>>> down a cause.  Wondering if anyone else has come across something
>>>> similar.
>>>>
>>>> Mikrotik DHCP Server.  EPMP1000 GPS AP,  Force 300 SM.
>>>>
>>>> At a random time, one or More Force 300 SM's on the AP will lose the
>>>> ability to hand out a DHCP Address to the client.  The Mikrotik just
>>>> shows 'Offered'
>>>>
>>>> Rebooting or powercycling the SM has no effect.  If the SM Connects to
>>>> a
>>>> different sector, then DHCP is immediately handed out.  If the AP
>>>> reboots, and the SM reconnects, then DHCP is immediately handed out.
>>>> If
>>>> the SM is set for NAT mode, it can get a DHCP Address just fine, but
>>>> switching back to bridge, the Customer router will not get DHCP.
>>>>
>>>> I've experienced this from 4.4.3 all the way up to 4.6.3.  It always
>>>> seems to be an EPMP1000 AP with a Foce300 SM, but does not affect every
>>>> Force300 SM at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> At least now I know when I start having this problem to go reboot the
>>>> AP.
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