Thanks. I should have specified that this is for fiber deployment. I shouldn't have any problem competing speed wise, even with standard GPON. I'm somewhat curious what to expect take-rate wise since I'm not offering bundled TV service. My other fiber deployments have been a bit more rural with no other wire-line operators, so I've had close to 100% take rate.
What are you using for XGSPON? On Wednesday, March 9, 2022, <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > Are we talking about wireless? If I was starting fresh with wireless > today, I’d target “up to” 50mbps and have a 100mbps plan for qualifying > locations. I’d have an aggressive QoS plan to mitigate impact of heavy > usage. I’d be a stickler about achieving and maintaining high MCS. To > make that goal easier I’d say screw NLOS. > > > > I’ve worked at 2 WISPs. The first built right on top of cable in a medium > sized city. The second was almost entirely rural. > > > > The one building on top of cable never got more than 2% market share, but > that wasn’t necessarily bad: > > - 2% of a good sized market can still make you plenty of money > - The people who care about having the most Mbps just bought cable > anyway, and we ended up with lighter and more casual users: I.e.: the cost > efficient ones > - The people who weren’t happy could just get cable and they wouldn’t > be our problem anymore > - Time Warner/Spectrum pisses someone off pretty much every day, so > there was a steady stream of incoming customers greater than the number > that would quit and get cable > - There was more churn, but drive time to pick up or install an SM was > rarely more than 15 minutes, so it wasn’t a big deal > > > > The one building mostly rural had a captive audience, but that wasn’t > necessarily perfect: > > - People felt stuck with them, if they weren’t happy they would just > keep complaining about the terrible injustice of the world > - You have to try to serve both the light and heavy users. The heavy > users would never be content. The light users may suffer from heavy users > sucking airtime. > > > > In my mind, the goal is to have customers quietly enjoy their service, pay > their bills, and not bother me. You’re a lot more labor efficient in that > case, and it was way easier to get that if the unhappy ones could leave and > the ones most concerned about $/mbit never signed up in the first place. > > > > There’s something like a 15% compound annual growth in data consumption > per household in the USA and has been since Netflix streaming started > taking off. Where that sucks for wireless is there’s no compound annual > growth in available bandwidth. You have to plan around congestion and how > you’ll deal with it, and you’ll have to plan your finances around a short > upgrade cycle….like 5 years. I.E.: Plan not just how you’ll pay for > today’s network, but how you’ll pay for the next network that you’ll need 5 > years from now. I think that’s the piece that people are missing when they > think they can still sell internet for $29/month. > > OR get into fiber. An XGSPON network has 10Gbps download capacity. Put 50 > users on an XGSPON port and you won’t have to fret too much about that 15% > compound growth for a good long while. You can sell the full speed of the > ONT’s ethernet port to each customer if you want to (whether that’s 1Gb or > 2.5Gb) and be confident that it’s truly achievable. I’m painfully aware of > the capital required, and if you don’t have it you don’t have it. In that > case rethink the whole wireless thing in light of how to cope with high > demand and a short upgrade cycle. You won’t get away with selling 5Mb > plans against cable. If I couldn’t see a path to victory I’d say exploit > the tail while thinking about a different business to get into. There are > definitely easier businesses to get into. :shrug: > > > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2022 7:07 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <Af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Competing with Mediacom / cableco > > > > I'm looking at moving into some areas that Mediacom has started serving in > the past couple of years. For any of you that are already doing this, what > kind of packages are you having luck with? What is your typical take rate? > > > > Thanks! >
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