Interesting.  I never got the history map like this in my tests.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 3:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags

Lulz 


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 4:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

  I am hoping Paul Dowling will release something that fits my needs.  I know 
he is working on it.  

  From: Chuck McCown via AF 
  Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 3:08 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Cc: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags

  I would rather pay more upfront and less monthly.  $155.40 yearly plus $69.96 
 $225.35 end of first year.
  I would like to pay no more than $7.50 per month.  

  From: Jason Wilson 
  Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 2:33 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags

  I am using this from Optimus.
  https://www.amazon.com/GPS-Tracker-Optimus-Bundle-Magnet/dp/B01KKVKQ66

  Monthly/Yearly plan is a bit much.  I have them on my Gator and my trailers.  
I will be swapping them out for the direct battery connection. 
  
https://optimustracker.com/products/gb100m-easy-install-directly-on-cars-battery-gps-tracker?pr_prod_strat=copurchase&pr_rec_pid=6626974564434&pr_ref_pid=6626927542354&pr_seq=uniform


  I get a notification when they move.  Battery lasts about 3 months.  You can 
set up a GeoFence for each unit, so if you are moving equipment around the yard 
you don't get notifications.


  All in all I have been very happy with it.  

  Jason


  Jason Wilson
  Remotely Located
  Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
  530-651-1736
  530-748-9608 Cell
  www.remotelylocated.com


  On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 1:04 PM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:

    Except airtags piggyback on every ios device that hasn't opted out, whereas 
tile is only if you have installed the tile app, so the devices are the same, 
the 'coverage' is vastly different

    On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:58 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

      Tile is just as good as Air Tag.  It's all based on BTLE locatability.


      Josh Luthman
      24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373


      On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 7:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> 
wrote:

        No but reading about it leaves me with little enthusiasm.


        Sent from my iPhone


          On Nov 24, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:


           
          Have you tried Tile App?


          On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 3:54 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> 
wrote:

            If something comes up missing, can you get in and poll it?

            From: Josh Luthman 
            Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 2:49 PM
            To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
            Cc: Chuck McCown 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags

            I've had mine for a couple of years.  I'm happy.  Keep in mind the 
up front charge covers all the data for the next few years, too.  At $0/mo I'm 
much happier. 

            The way the units are built I'm not feeling like they were intended 
for a battery replacement but once it's dead there's no reason not to pop it 
open and see what you can do.

            It's reporting once a day and that's what makes the battery last so 
long.  Once you know there's a problem, you can enable constant monitoring 
(which could start anywhere from 1 minute to 24 hours).


            Josh Luthman
            24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
            Direct: 937-552-2343
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373


            On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:45 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

              The airtags test was a flop.  I put one on my son’s truck without 
him knowing.  It would occasionally report a location while on a busy street or 
highway but most of the time no.  He does not use an iphone so it was a good 
test.  

              The lack of reporting in frequently along with the lack of 
history of the locations make them unusable for tracking equipment for the 
purpose of finding it when it is missing.  

              Interested in the thing Paul Dowling is working on.  

              gpsandfleet.com is pretty spendy.  Can you replace the battery?

              From: TJ Trout 
              Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:02 PM
              To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags

              There's a guy on YouTube who mailed airtags to n Korea and 
several other places just to track them for a video, pretty interesting. They 
seem to work pretty good, dare I say almost as good as a cellular tracker?

              On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 9:11 AM Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

                For trailers and stuff?  I use gpsandfleet.com - it's a $250 
one time purchase and works until the battery dies.  Do a 1 poll/day cycle and 
it's 3-5 years.


                Josh Luthman
                24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
                Direct: 937-552-2343
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373


                On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 10:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

                  Recurring payment expense is my main concern.  

                  From: can...@believewireless.net 
                  Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 7:46 AM
                  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags

                  I have a cellular/GPS asset tracker coming out in a few 
months. Chuck, happy to let you test it out NC.

                  On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 7:11 PM Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

                    Yep ..sneaky and probably illegal

                    On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 12:07 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

                      So free forwarding just automagically happens?  They ride 
some random persons data plan?
                      I realize it is such a small amount of data but that is a 
pretty sneaky way of getting a free ride.  

                      From: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
                      Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 11:47 AM
                      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
                      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags

                      The phones will pickup the Bluetooth beacon and relay the 
phone’s gps to the tracking service.  

                      Basically a GPS by proxy on behalf of the tracking token.



                      It relies on random folks wandering by and the Bluetooth 
token snagging enough “air time” to report home.



                      Jim Bouse
                      Owner - Brazos WiFi
                      979-999-7000
                      http://www.brazoswifi.com



                      From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck 
McCown via AF
                      Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:45 PM
                      To: af@af.afmug.com
                      Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
                      Subject: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags



                      Being lazy and not wanting to do the research.

                      How do the air tags work.  In other words, how do they 
get connectivity to the world.  Most of the stuff I have read talks about blue 
tooth but that isnt worth anything over distance.



                      I rent out some construction equipment and I am thinking 
of putting them on the equipment.  But I need a better understanding.  


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