The x710 has 4 SFP+ ports.  You don't necessarily need dedicated physical
interfaces for each router either.  Our CHR boxes have a single x710 and
several instances of CHR "sharing" the physical interfaces.  We use ESXi
with a virtual switch trunking VLANs to the CHR instances.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 3:43 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> wrote:

> Right those are 2x though for a total of 4 ports.  I need more than that,
> especially if I want to run more than one router on these.
>
> Might even consider to see if there is any support for 40Gbps cards or
> whether a server's bus can handle those speeds with a card.  I can
> aggregate different devices on a switch instead.
>
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> *From: *"Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, December 21, 2020 3:34:23 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>
> 2x Intel x710.
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 2:22 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I've considered this too as a temporary measure because I can get some
>> off lease well maintained Dell servers for peanuts.  Problem is finding the
>> right cards when you need 8 sfp+ ports.
>>
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>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/>
>> <https://twitter.com/wavedirect1>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect>
>> * STEVEN KENNEY *
>> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N |
>> Leamington ON
>> E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283
>> W: www.wavedirect.net
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com>
>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Monday, December 21, 2020 12:41:53 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>>
>> We just bought 5x brand new 1072s and they are rebooting by watchdog.
>> Upgraded ros and firmware, Disabled watchdog and then they hard freeze and
>> require a reboot.
>>
>> We are going chr route. 1072 is junk.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 9:34 AM Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hate to say it, but worked.  Keep in mind that these units that we have
>>> had this issue had been running for 3+ years, so, it was out of warranty
>>> anyways.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
>>> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>>>
>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>>>
>>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>>
>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Josh Baird
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 21, 2020 9:45 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Haha - "Get a new one" .. only with MT.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 8:22 AM Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Get a new one.  That’s what we did, replaced it and the issue went
>>> away.  Its like the 1072 has some kind of bug, or maybe a leaky cap, that
>>> eventually causes them to do this.  No matter of fiddling fixes it, we
>>> swapped out the unit and have not have the same issue since.  We have 1072s
>>> running 15gig inbound without issues.  So, while  I do attest that this is
>>> a MT (rather routeros) issue, we don’t have any data to know where it is
>>> unless the manufacture can tell us.  So far they are tight lipped.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
>>> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>>>
>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>>>
>>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>>
>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>>>
>>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 21, 2020 12:56 AM
>>> *To:* af <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Their support is behaving the same way exactly.  They told me to take
>>> the watchdog off and allow the internet to be frozen (downtime for all my
>>> customers) whenever it happens at any random point in the day/night while I
>>> rush to log into it with a serial cable.  The absurdity of it.  Luckily I
>>> told him from day one that I have a CONSOLE SERVER and that I log all the
>>> serial output of all my switches and routers.  But even though I told them
>>> that a couple times they still requested I plug in a serial cable and wait
>>> for it to freeze.  So I'm like .. hellooo there is a serial cable plugged
>>> in at all times!  I told him there is no output.  It just reboots.  I even
>>> humored him and turned the watchdog off and we had a reboot on the weekend
>>> while the cable was plugged in and the console was logged in.  I even had
>>> logging set to echo for a lot of things and nothing.. just a hard freeze.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is no BGP on this one and the processor is not high leading up to
>>> the crash at all.  Updated 5 times already and its just a placebo.   They
>>> need to get their shit together.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed>
>>> <https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/>
>>> <https://twitter.com/wavedirect1>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect>
>>>
>>> *STEVEN KENNEY *
>>> *DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY *
>>>
>>> *A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON E: st...@wavedirect.org
>>> <st...@wavedirect.org> | P: 519-737-9283 W:
>>> https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=www.wavedirect.net&umid=D7E8655E-B6F3-F705-88EA-2A08303811DF&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-a20d49e3e6a4f958e127c88b05686fb87748d1dd
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com>
>>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 21, 2020 12:59:09 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This last year, I've seen a MikroTik CCR1072 switch from long being
>>> rock-solid to now having occasional random reboots (from watchdog) or 100%
>>> CPU usage, which strangles the BGP process. In the latter case,
>>> tools->profile would show the firewall taking 100% of CPU, even after
>>> temporarily disabling all firewall filter and NAT rules and connection
>>> tracking. Not fun.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> MT tech support did not seem super helpful or interested, mostly
>>> recommending to disable watchdog (unacceptable on a production router) or
>>> to upgrade firmware (without specifying the suspected cause of the problem
>>> or nature of the fix).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tried 1 update, that didn't seem to help, have now tried another...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 11:38 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> MIkrotik has been rock solid for me for years.  Until this year and the
>>> 1072's.  Random reboots set off by watchdog timer on all of my 1072's.
>>> Some more than others.  Threads in the forum all discuss the same problem
>>> exactly.  Its a connection tracking issue.. however I need connection
>>> tracking on one particular router.  I've adjusted everything I could.
>>> Firmware and board firmware all up to date etc.  Happens randomly with low
>>> levels of traffic,  high levels of traffic,  sometimes a couple times a
>>> day,  sometimes weeks.  No DDOS evidence at all from upstream routers.
>>> Configs checked and rechecked by third party experts.  I graph everything
>>> about the Mikrotik and there are no clues or anything abnormal happening
>>> before the crash.  Plenty of memory, disk space,  CPU etc.    Replaces all
>>> the trannies, power cables and such.  Not running BGP only OSPF on the one
>>> that is giving me the most trouble.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Even have a serial console cable plugged into them to my opengear and
>>> set it to log pretty much everything to console including the kernel and
>>> nothing.  A hard freeze.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then there is Mikrotik support...  I've never needed their support
>>> before until now.  So I put a ticket in and the shitty attitude I'm getting
>>> from them seems like they KNOW there is something wrong with the hardware
>>> and they are intentionally not being helpful.  It is pretty clear to see
>>> with all the people reporting this issue that there IS an issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If this is any indication of how things are going to go with Mikrotik on
>>> the newer hardware going forware I think its time to jump to an enterprise
>>> level system.  Juniper most likely.  Shame because they are just about
>>> keeping up with the demands with their hardware.  Getting closer to 100Gbps
>>> etc and ROS7 ... but at their current pace I think we've outgrew them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All the threads discussing this issue has been absolutely quiet when it
>>> comes to Mikrotik jumping in to mention or try to help troubleshoot.  I
>>> think they know they had bad hardware out there and do not want to honor
>>> warranties.  I've heard rumors of bad batches of 1072's.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone else encounter this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> *STEVEN KENNEY *
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>>>
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