2x Intel x710.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 2:22 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> wrote:

> I've considered this too as a temporary measure because I can get some off
> lease well maintained Dell servers for peanuts.  Problem is finding the
> right cards when you need 8 sfp+ ports.
>
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> *From: *"TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com>
> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, December 21, 2020 12:41:53 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>
> We just bought 5x brand new 1072s and they are rebooting by watchdog.
> Upgraded ros and firmware, Disabled watchdog and then they hard freeze and
> require a reboot.
>
> We are going chr route. 1072 is junk.
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 9:34 AM Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hate to say it, but worked.  Keep in mind that these units that we have
>> had this issue had been running for 3+ years, so, it was out of warranty
>> anyways.
>>
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>>
>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
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>>
>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
>> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>>
>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>>
>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>
>> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>>
>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
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>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Josh Baird
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 21, 2020 9:45 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>>
>>
>>
>> Haha - "Get a new one" .. only with MT.
>>
>>
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>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 8:22 AM Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Get a new one.  That’s what we did, replaced it and the issue went away.
>> Its like the 1072 has some kind of bug, or maybe a leaky cap, that
>> eventually causes them to do this.  No matter of fiddling fixes it, we
>> swapped out the unit and have not have the same issue since.  We have 1072s
>> running 15gig inbound without issues.  So, while  I do attest that this is
>> a MT (rather routeros) issue, we don’t have any data to know where it is
>> unless the manufacture can tell us.  So far they are tight lipped.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>>
>>
>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
>> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>>
>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>>
>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>
>> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>>
>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 21, 2020 12:56 AM
>> *To:* af <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>>
>>
>>
>> Their support is behaving the same way exactly.  They told me to take the
>> watchdog off and allow the internet to be frozen (downtime for all my
>> customers) whenever it happens at any random point in the day/night while I
>> rush to log into it with a serial cable.  The absurdity of it.  Luckily I
>> told him from day one that I have a CONSOLE SERVER and that I log all the
>> serial output of all my switches and routers.  But even though I told them
>> that a couple times they still requested I plug in a serial cable and wait
>> for it to freeze.  So I'm like .. hellooo there is a serial cable plugged
>> in at all times!  I told him there is no output.  It just reboots.  I even
>> humored him and turned the watchdog off and we had a reboot on the weekend
>> while the cable was plugged in and the console was logged in.  I even had
>> logging set to echo for a lot of things and nothing.. just a hard freeze.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is no BGP on this one and the processor is not high leading up to
>> the crash at all.  Updated 5 times already and its just a placebo.   They
>> need to get their shit together.
>>
>>
>>
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>> <https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed>
>> <https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/>
>> <https://twitter.com/wavedirect1>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect>
>>
>> *STEVEN KENNEY *
>> *DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY *
>>
>> *A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON E: st...@wavedirect.org
>> <st...@wavedirect.org> | P: 519-737-9283 W:
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>> *From: *"Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Monday, December 21, 2020 12:59:09 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>>
>>
>>
>> This last year, I've seen a MikroTik CCR1072 switch from long being
>> rock-solid to now having occasional random reboots (from watchdog) or 100%
>> CPU usage, which strangles the BGP process. In the latter case,
>> tools->profile would show the firewall taking 100% of CPU, even after
>> temporarily disabling all firewall filter and NAT rules and connection
>> tracking. Not fun.
>>
>>
>>
>> MT tech support did not seem super helpful or interested, mostly
>> recommending to disable watchdog (unacceptable on a production router) or
>> to upgrade firmware (without specifying the suspected cause of the problem
>> or nature of the fix).
>>
>>
>>
>> Tried 1 update, that didn't seem to help, have now tried another...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 11:38 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> MIkrotik has been rock solid for me for years.  Until this year and the
>> 1072's.  Random reboots set off by watchdog timer on all of my 1072's.
>> Some more than others.  Threads in the forum all discuss the same problem
>> exactly.  Its a connection tracking issue.. however I need connection
>> tracking on one particular router.  I've adjusted everything I could.
>> Firmware and board firmware all up to date etc.  Happens randomly with low
>> levels of traffic,  high levels of traffic,  sometimes a couple times a
>> day,  sometimes weeks.  No DDOS evidence at all from upstream routers.
>> Configs checked and rechecked by third party experts.  I graph everything
>> about the Mikrotik and there are no clues or anything abnormal happening
>> before the crash.  Plenty of memory, disk space,  CPU etc.    Replaces all
>> the trannies, power cables and such.  Not running BGP only OSPF on the one
>> that is giving me the most trouble.
>>
>>
>>
>> Even have a serial console cable plugged into them to my opengear and set
>> it to log pretty much everything to console including the kernel and
>> nothing.  A hard freeze.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then there is Mikrotik support...  I've never needed their support before
>> until now.  So I put a ticket in and the shitty attitude I'm getting from
>> them seems like they KNOW there is something wrong with the hardware and
>> they are intentionally not being helpful.  It is pretty clear to see with
>> all the people reporting this issue that there IS an issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> If this is any indication of how things are going to go with Mikrotik on
>> the newer hardware going forware I think its time to jump to an enterprise
>> level system.  Juniper most likely.  Shame because they are just about
>> keeping up with the demands with their hardware.  Getting closer to 100Gbps
>> etc and ROS7 ... but at their current pace I think we've outgrew them.
>>
>>
>>
>> All the threads discussing this issue has been absolutely quiet when it
>> comes to Mikrotik jumping in to mention or try to help troubleshoot.  I
>> think they know they had bad hardware out there and do not want to honor
>> warranties.  I've heard rumors of bad batches of 1072's.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone else encounter this?
>>
>>
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>> <https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed>
>> <https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/>
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>> <https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect>
>>
>> *STEVEN KENNEY *
>> *DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY *
>>
>> *A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON E: st...@wavedirect.org
>> <st...@wavedirect.org> | P: 519-737-9283 W: www.wavedirect.net
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