This is probably it. The settlement is likely just a "go away now" move on both sides. I recall reading a well written article early on when it was first announced that Ubnt basically didn't have a case, they just wanted the court ordered stop-sell delay long enough to likewise push the AC products and backwards compatibility of their own products.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:32 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah, I think Cambium's goal was probably to just drag it out long enough > that the product wasn't really needed anymore. I suspect that at this > point, the majority of the 802.11N based networks that are going to be > converted to ePMP already have been, and Elevate never supported the AC > gear anyway and even if it did, there would probably be a lot less interest > now than there was back then. It was a very useful tool at the time, and > saved a lot of us a ton of work, but it pretty much served its purpose and > can be left to die at this point. > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:17 AM Cameron Crum <cc...@murcevilo.com> wrote: > >> I believe the claim was that Cambium hacked Ubnt's hardware so they could >> figure out how to load Cambium firmware onto Ubnt radios. This would save a >> wisp a ton of money if they decided to switch platforms as they would not >> have to buy new CPEs, just APs. They found some technicality in the DMCA, I >> believe, and it looks like either Cambium decided it might go against them >> (highly likely when trying to convince non-technical judges) or they >> decided it would just be less expensive to end it now. What looks to those >> of us who understand things like radio chipsets better than the average joe >> public like a no-brianer, is most likely incomprehensible to a judge or a >> selection of random people in a jury pool. Heck I've seen supposed >> "distinguished trial judges" not be able to tell which party is which in a >> property dispute because one party claimed to be the other by filing brand >> new articles of incorporation with the same name. I would expect trying to >> convince them the radio hardware was not proprietary would be tantamount to >> a fat man climbing mount everest without oxygen. Maybe "someone" will >> figure out a way to do this independently just in case they don't want to >> swap thousands of CPEs. I can't imagine it would be too difficult, but you >> might open yourself up to a new lawsuit. >> >> On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 12:21 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >> wrote: >> >>> So who is who here. I guess I am UBNT? >>> Paint my mounts sounds like flash my radio with the code of others. >>> So UBNT could legally claim you cannot put Cambium code in their radios? >>> >>> So were UBNT customers putting Cambium software in UBNT radios? >>> Or were people putting UBNT software in Cambium radios? >>> >>> I remember it happening at the time. I just don’t remember any >>> details. >>> The article says that the settlement involved Cambium paying UBNT. >>> Assuming that is correct, the Cambium must have done something wrong. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Craig Schmaderer >>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:02 AM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit >>> with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware >>> >>> >>> Chuck, I look at it like, if you said I could not paint your mounts >>> after I buy them, and I decide to paint them blue using Rustoleum paint, >>> you would sue Rustoleum and I for breaking your EUA >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF >>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:33 AM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit >>> with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware >>> >>> >>> >>> I never understood the argument. What exactly did Cambium do wrong? >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Steve Jones >>> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2020 10:09 AM >>> >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit >>> with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware >>> >>> >>> >>> I hope cambium does it again with something else ubnt now just to spite >>> them. 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