i wish they would make it SAS, make everything SAS

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 1:16 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:

> That remains to be seen. It looks like it's going to be permanent
> unlicensed spectrum, but it sounds like there could still be some
> restrictions on outdoor use.
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 12:47 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> so renewable STA or limited time use?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 12:40 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is the same STA spectrum... this is making it permanent, rather
>>> than STA (but it looks like only for indoor use at this point).
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 12:28 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> this is the same STA spectrum, or a new set?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:11 AM Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, since it sounds like they haven't finalized rules for outdoor use
>>>>> yet, I'm guessing those of us with STAs will probably just need to keep
>>>>> asking for extensions, for the time being?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:54 AM Josh Luthman <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> WISPA shared how to do this in the beginning of the year, around
>>>>>> March I think.  A handful of WISPs got this 45 MHz.  They're talking 
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> it on the mailing lists yesterday and today again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The WISPA lists are still active.  If you haven't seen anything since
>>>>>> then I'd also guess your subscriptions were removed.  Feel free to sign
>>>>>> back up or reach out to the admins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 11:17 PM Darin Steffl <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hopefully wispa will share the steps to take to get this permanent
>>>>>>> STA. This is very exciting!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sidenote, are the wispa mailing lists still a thing? I used to get
>>>>>>> lots of emails but I don't recall seeing any for awhile now. Our 
>>>>>>> membership
>>>>>>> expired for a few weeks and I renewed it but maybe that cleared my
>>>>>>> subscriptions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 6:38 PM Peter Kranz via AF <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m guessing the STA process.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter Kranz
>>>>>>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
>>>>>>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>>>>>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Matt Hoppes <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:37 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Peter Kranz <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5.850-5.925Ghz immediately available for
>>>>>>>> indoor use, outdoor use with approval
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is this conditional basis?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Peter Kranz via AF <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks like we may have 45Mhz of additional frequencies to use
>>>>>>>> pretty soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ““Full-power indoor unlicensed operations" are authorized
>>>>>>>> immediately, while "outdoor unlicensed use" will be allowed "on a
>>>>>>>> coordinated basis under certain circumstances," the FCC said.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/11/fcc-adds-45mhz-to-wi-fi-promising-supersize-networks-on-5ghz-band/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter Kranz
>>>>>>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
>>>>>>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>>>>>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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