That isn't t568a...you can do that, but that's not a "standard" used by
many cable manufacturers.

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On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 11:14 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

> The Last batch I ordered from Monoprice had this pinout.  So I just throw
> one of these on the POE injector if I want to use a camibum POE to power a
> mikrotik, or my Battery adapter on an old 450 radio.  I thought I heard
> somewhere that Part of GIGe+POE spec was that it had to be polarity
> agnostic?
>
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> On 10/6/2020 10:06 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> That would be unusual for a crossover adapter to swap the 4,5 and 7,8
> pairs.  Traditionally they swapped 1,2 and 3,6 for the benefit of 10/100
> devices that didn't support auto MDI-X.  I don't think there's any context
> where swapping the spare pairs would have been useful.  In telephony you
> might encounter a rollover adapter, but that's a horse of a different color.
>
> What I'm wondering is whether "power pairs" is even a useful term anymore
> or just a pointless thing to argue about.  I know there's a long history in
> WISP-land of the spare pairs on 100BaseT being used for passive PoE.  But,
> 450b like most modern devices, has gigE.  Like all gigE devices, all pairs
> carry data.  Their official PoE adapter puts power on certain pairs, but
> 802.3af/at has multiple power modes where power could be on different pairs
> in different polarities.
>
> I think we're seeing more polarity agnostic devices because the gigE
> chipsets have to have that.  Maybe it's not that Cambium and Ubiquiti love
> and protect us, but that Ethernet vendors have to consider the reality of
> multiple cabling situations when designing PoE capable chipsets, and a
> diode bridge on the DC input is the logical solution everyone came to
> independently.  So on modern PoE devices there are pairs carrying power,
> but there are no more dedicated power pairs.  Just a thought.
>
>
> On 10/6/2020 10:43 AM, Nate Burke via AF wrote:
>
> Unless they've changed the product in the last couple years, these cross
> the power pairs as well.  <https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=5088>
> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=5088
>
> On 10/6/2020 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> a) cross over cable switches the data pairs, not the power pairs
> b) a 450b accepts both polarities for voltage
>
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> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 10:21 AM Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I just found this:
>>
>> https://mikrotik.com/product/mqs
>>
>> I assume I can just use a crossover cable to power up a PMP450b.
>> Anyone used them?  I am not sure we need the wifi, our SMs are
>> pre-programmed to lock on the tower.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 9:28 AM Matt < <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
>> matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > What is everyone using to power up an SM for site surveys nowadays?
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