The selling point for me in Vmware was Storage Motion. If it were not for that and the fact I'm already invested in them now i'd move to Proxmox. For Storage Motion I can migrate not only the VM but also the hard drive to a different datastore while live. It won't work on major servers that have deltas moving faster than it can keep up though. But if I need to turn down and update one datastore to do maint I can slowly move all VM's off.
[ https://www.wavedirect.net/ | ] [ https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed ] [ https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/ ] [ https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/ ] [ https://twitter.com/wavedirect1 ] [ https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect ] STEVEN KENNEY DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON E: [email protected] | P: 519-737-9283 W: www.wavedirect.net From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> To: "af" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 8:34:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Virtual machines If you're going to have multiple physical VM hosts then fast shared storage is very helpful. When you want to reboot a physical machine for OS upgrade and the VM's are on shared storage then you can migrate them off that box in a few seconds. Do your maintenance, reboot, migrate VM's back. No downtime. On 9/27/2020 11:43 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Thanks guys. Proxmox didn't even come up in my searches. I'll look into it. If anyone really knows the space and wouldn't mind spending 15 minutes discussing what we need I would appreciate it. On Sun, Sep 27, 2020, 10:21 AM Bill Prince < [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] > wrote: BQ_BEGIN VMs are a great way to go depending on the job(s) you need to do. As it happens a lot of jobs (e.g. DNS) are not particularly compute intensive, so it's a great way to stretch resources. We find we can run 3 or 4 virtual machines on each physical machine. We used VMware from the get-go, but did not get many of the paid-for bells and whistles. VMware can become pretty expensive, where other solutions (e.g. Proxmox) has an advantage because of open source. The other consideration is containers, which can be thought of as VM-lite. Containers provide almost all of the advantages of VMs with a significantly lighter load on the hardware. As a result, you can load up more applications on less hardware. The leading contender in the container space is Kubernetes and it's also open source. Pick your poison with someone you know who can go over your requirements. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 9/27/2020 7:27 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: BQ_BEGIN I have decided I needed to get on the VM train. I know, I am only 15 years behind. Honestly, till now I haven't had a compelling reason. I want something that will at least do some monitoring of VM's, backups, snapshots, etc. Managed upgrading would be great but not as big a priority for me (at least I don't think so). Since I don't know what I don't know, I am asking the experienced crowd. It seems the two real choices are VMWare and Zen. Are there others? Commercial support seems nice, is it worth paying for? What I will run is important for sure. I spent a few hours last night and I more confused now than when I started. -- AF mailing list [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] BQ_END BQ_END -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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