These should be as baned as the major Huawei ban... yes they are
probably the source of the backdoors that are turning into ransomware
problems...
On 09/14/2020 09:45 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Good find. Or this:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/11ac-1200Mbps-Smart-Wireless-Router-Realtek_60798208358.html
Order 1000 and get custom logo and packaging, and now you’re a router
vendor. Set up an Amazon store and you’re in business.
I have told the customer they have to get a different router. The open
DNS resolver on the WAN side is getting constant 2-way traffic, which
can use their entire Internet bandwidth if they get used for a DNS
amplification attack. It makes no sense for someone to use them as a
DNS resolver, so even what they’re seeing now 24x7 is probably going to
spoofed IP addresses as part of an attack.
Add in the open telnet interface, what is that? A backdoor for China?
If it was a name brand router, I would tell them to try updating the
firmware or contacting their tech support. But that’s not going to work
for a Tamifly router from DiJi. They need to return it to Amazon and
buy a name brand router. If they can’t return it, throw it out and call
it a $50 learning experience.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Joe Novak
*Sent:* Monday, September 14, 2020 11:14 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?
Well I'm glad that specific router isn't going for 6/per on alibaba.
This looks just like it:
https://yuncore.en.alibaba.com/product/60847306416-803098363/Realtek_Network_wireless_router_FR800_M1_With_Mesh_function_Router.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.41413.20.3c006dca8hw5o8
I'm not sure what you do about that. Consumer routers have hit such a
bad point I'm not sure what to do anymore. They all seem to have crap
software, which makes the 'okay' hardware worse.
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 10:34 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
It appears this is what the customer bought:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FJ2TQRW
To find a brand name you have to watch the video, it's apparently a
Tamifly from DiJi, or is it LucaSng?
Amazon will be the death of us, with 3rd party Chinese sellers and
Chinese crap they bought off Alibaba and are reselling. Then they
get phony "reviewers" to post glowing reviews to phony review
sites. And Amazon says "Amazon's Choice for diji wifi router" and
the listing says "Newest 2020" and it's a high speed gaming router
ideal for home office & HD video streaming works great with any devices.
Amazon always sells the best stuff, right? Like a Tamifly gaming
router for $50. What could go wrong? Like big gaping security
flaws? Why are we worried about Huawei and ZTE when our citizens
install this crap on their home Internet?
-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>
On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 7:37 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?
Yeah, and I was dumbfounded, he was talking stuff like "what's the
iperf
numbers for your network" I was thinking he had a clue, but somewhere
he fell into the IFM trap... When he said there wasn't an ethernet
anywhere, I think my jaw actually dropped because he gave me a look.
On 09/11/2020 04:44 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Unbelievable.
>
> As I was reading your email I was waiting for the part where he
prewired the house with Cat6 or fiber to every room with wall outlet
or ceiling WiFi6 APs in every room. Oops.
>
> I'm not a big fan of powerline networking as a primary solution.
To fill a deadspot, sure.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 5:26 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?
>
> We had a customer the other day have us come out to look at his new
> house for a future install. The whole house is e-glass and
concrete.
> Interior as well as exterior walls. New concrete is wet.
Between the
> concrete and the eglass he had built a wifi proof blockhouse. I
showed
> him how bad the attenuation was from a phone set as a hotspot to
another
> phone in another room. Yeah he's going to be praying at the
alter of
> ethernet over powerlines because he put ZERO cat5 in during
construction
> figuring he was going to mesh the whole place.. Phone in 5 Ghz
there
> was barely a signal at all.. -85 from one room to another..
They all are experts now. The most dangerous person in the world is
someone with just a little tech knowledge...
>
> On 09/11/2020 12:22 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> When we deploy premise routers with SFP ports, customers could care
>> less. Only one has ever been used, and that’s at a business
customer
>> where we used a direct attach cable to a POE switch for their
VoIP phones.
>>
>> All customers want any more is WiFi. Nobody wants Ethernet. Or
fiber.
>> What they call “hardwired” or “Earth Net”.
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2020 2:10 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?
>>
>> With an SFP port?!
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:27 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
>> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Theese seems to bee thee one:
>>
>> https://yuncore.en.alibaba.com/
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 9/11/2020 11:14 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> MAC address. So yes, could be OEM. But I asked the
tech who
>> did the install about a week ago and he said the router
name was
>> either Yunlink or something similar. He said that he’s
seen one
>> more recently.
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>
>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2020 1:05 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?
>>
>> Is that what the router actually says, or just what the
MAC is
>> registered to?
>>
>> On 9/11/2020 12:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> Anybody else encountered a Yunlink router?
>>
>> Where do customers find these things? Are they
shopping on
>> Alibaba? I can’t find Yunlink for sale on Amazon or
>> anywhere else. We’ve got a new customer with an
open DNS
>> resolver and telnet interface. I figure it’s just
a matter
>> of time before the DNS server gets exploited for an
>> amplification attack.
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