Well I'm glad that specific router isn't going for 6/per on alibaba. This
looks just like it:

https://yuncore.en.alibaba.com/product/60847306416-803098363/Realtek_Network_wireless_router_FR800_M1_With_Mesh_function_Router.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.41413.20.3c006dca8hw5o8


I'm not sure what you do about that. Consumer routers have hit such a bad
point I'm not sure what to do anymore. They all seem to have crap software,
which makes the 'okay' hardware worse.


On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 10:34 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> It appears this is what the customer bought:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FJ2TQRW
>
> To find a brand name you have to watch the video, it's apparently a
> Tamifly from DiJi, or is it LucaSng?
>
> Amazon will be the death of us, with 3rd party Chinese sellers and Chinese
> crap they bought off Alibaba and are reselling.  Then they get phony
> "reviewers" to post glowing reviews to phony review sites.  And Amazon says
> "Amazon's Choice for diji wifi router" and the listing says "Newest 2020"
> and it's a high speed gaming router ideal for home office & HD video
> streaming works great with any devices.
>
> Amazon always sells the best stuff, right?  Like a Tamifly gaming router
> for $50.  What could go wrong?  Like big gaping security flaws?  Why are we
> worried about Huawei and ZTE when our citizens install this crap on their
> home Internet?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 7:37 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?
>
> Yeah, and I was dumbfounded, he was talking stuff like "what's the iperf
> numbers for your network"   I was thinking he had a clue, but somewhere
> he fell into the IFM trap...  When he said there wasn't an ethernet
> anywhere, I think my jaw actually dropped because he gave me a look.
>
> On 09/11/2020 04:44 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > Unbelievable.
> >
> > As I was reading your email I was waiting for the part where he prewired
> the house with Cat6 or fiber to every room with wall outlet or ceiling
> WiFi6 APs in every room.  Oops.
> >
> > I'm not a big fan of powerline networking as a primary solution.  To
> fill a deadspot, sure.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 5:26 PM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?
> >
> > We had a customer the other day have us come out to look at his new
> > house for a future install.   The whole house is e-glass and concrete.
> > Interior as well as exterior walls.   New concrete is wet.  Between the
> > concrete and the eglass he had built a wifi proof blockhouse.   I showed
> > him how bad the attenuation was from a phone set as a hotspot to another
> > phone in another room.   Yeah he's going to be praying at the alter of
> > ethernet over powerlines because he put ZERO cat5 in during construction
> > figuring he was going to mesh the whole place..   Phone in 5 Ghz there
> > was barely a signal at all..  -85 from one room to another..  They all
> are experts now.  The most dangerous person in the world is someone with
> just a little tech knowledge...
> >
> > On 09/11/2020 12:22 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >> When we deploy premise routers with SFP ports, customers could care
> >> less.  Only one has ever been used, and that’s at a business customer
> >> where we used a direct attach cable to a POE switch for their VoIP
> phones.
> >>
> >> All customers want any more is WiFi.  Nobody wants Ethernet.  Or fiber.
> >> What they call “hardwired” or “Earth Net”.
> >>
> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2020 2:10 PM
> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?
> >>
> >> With an SFP port?!
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:27 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>      Theese seems to bee thee one:
> >>
> >>          https://yuncore.en.alibaba.com/
> >>
> >>      bp
> >>
> >>      <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>
> >>      On 9/11/2020 11:14 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >>
> >>          MAC address.  So yes, could be OEM.  But I asked the tech who
> >>          did the install about a week ago and he said the router name
> was
> >>          either Yunlink or something similar.  He said that he’s seen
> one
> >>          more recently.
> >>
> >>          *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
> >>          <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
> >>          *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2020 1:05 PM
> >>          *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> >>          <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> >>          *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?
> >>
> >>          Is that what the router actually says, or just what the MAC is
> >>          registered to?
> >>
> >>          On 9/11/2020 12:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >>
> >>              Anybody else encountered a Yunlink router?
> >>
> >>              Where do customers find these things?  Are they shopping on
> >>              Alibaba?  I can’t find Yunlink for sale on Amazon or
> >>              anywhere else.  We’ve got a new customer with an open DNS
> >>              resolver and telnet interface.  I figure it’s just a matter
> >>              of time before the DNS server gets exploited for an
> >>              amplification attack.
> >>
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