Has anyone done a comparison or know of a whitepaper between LTE and Cambium? I am mainly looking at tree penetration or lower DB signals to actual throughput comparison. I have been told that LTE gets a little better tree penetration but if that is at a low rate that really doesn't help any.

On 9/12/2020 10:03 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
It comes down to complexity. Ericsson, Nokia, etc are all cellular brands and to run and manage those complex LTE networks, you need full time engineers to manage, debug, and optimize things.

Cambium is so easy, in comparison, there's very little extra learning to do in order to get it running great. Ericsson LTE probably would require months of training and needing to hire someone just to run the gear or hire expensive consultants to do it for you.

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020, 9:49 AM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com <mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    450m is the only way to do, especially if your already using the
    450 platform in other parts of your network, there is an operator
    in my area with the Ericson system and they had a ton of issues
    with getting it up and running, not even sure if they ever got it
    all resolved.

    On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 9:00 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us
    <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:

        Yup what josh said lol.

        We tried the LTE thing and glad we switch to 450m...much easier.

        -Sean


        On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:43 PM Josh Luthman
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            Having done one LTE vendor and 450m the only mistake I
            made was not buying the 450m sooner.


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            On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 5:54 PM Adam Moffett
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                And yeah, 450m might be expensive, but so is all the
                LTE stuff.

                You'll max out the legal EIRP with 450m, and get 8x8
                MIMO.  I think

                part of the magic with LTE is that it will connect
                with ridiculously

                low signal, but on a fixed system you probably won't
                really want the

                trashy signals anyway.


                Cambium also has LTE for whatever it's worth.  The
                CBRS version

                is supposed to be available relatively soon (though I
                forget

                precisely when).



                I don't know if I state it as "fewer issues since
                there is no

                EPC", but definitely fewer complexities and fewer
                things to worry

                about.  The connection from eNB to EPC has to be
                /pristine/,

                and the EPC comes with its own set of new terminology
                and new

                concepts to figure out.









                On 9/11/2020 4:06 PM, Darin Steffl

                wrote:








                I have seen lots to people doing 450M in CBRS

                stating coverage is nearly the same as LTE but way
                better speeds

                and triple the aggregate capacity due to mu-mimo.






                Way fewer issues too since there is no EPC. Just

                straight layer 2 with no bullshit.









                On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 2:39 PM

                David Coudron <david.coud...@advantenon.com
                <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>>

                wrote:










                    We are looking at a new area to

                    expand out network that has a lot more tree cover
                    than

                    our current footprint.   We are thinking with the

                    combination of CBRS and LTE, that we might be able to

                    offer better coverage than with traditional fixed

                    wireless options.   We have started conversations
                    with

                    the following vendors, wondering if anyone has
                    any hands

                    on experience with any of them and what their

                    impressions were:



                    Blinq



                    Airspan



                    Baicells



                    Ericsson





                    The Ericsson equipment is in a class

                    by itself price wise, but the others are similarly

                    priced, and somewhere around double the price of
                    PMP 450

                    stuff.   Normally we would add more tower sites for

                    better coverage, but this project will need to be
                    done

                    before the end of the year and building towers
                    isn’t an

                    option.   We have good enough spread on the
                    towers that

                    we think we can do this with PMP 450 APs, but are

                    thinking we’d get even better coverage out of
                    LTE.   Any

                    opinions on the reliability and the manageability
                    of the

                    four vendors above?   Sorry for such an open ended

                    question, but not sure what to ask to be more

                    specific.   We know that we will have the LTE
                    stuff to

                    deal with like access to an EPC and so on, so not so

                    much worried about that as more the manufacturers

                    themselves.   Baicells concerns us as they may get

                    lumped in with Huawei.





                    Thoughts?





                    Regards,





                    David Coudron









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