I don't have one personally so I can't speak definitively but our support articles say to plug in the circle with an ethernet cable. If it has a good wifi connection though I don't see what the difference is. We'd definitely prefer it to be connected with an ethernet cable.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 7:27 AM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote: > I’ve never seen the performance hit that was claimed in the article. I’ve > had one since they first came out. We’ve got the current model because > they offered us a lifetime subscription version for a reasonable price as > an upgrade. I currently have it on wifi because I ran out of space and > outlets where I put the router when I moved it. I haven’t noticed any real > difference in performance either way. The only time I ever had to reset it > was when I told it to put itself into the locked down profile that I had > created and it blocked itself from getting to the internet and it couldn’t > be managed anymore. That kind of seems like a design flaw but that was > with the old model so maybe you can’t do that with the current model. > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2020 8:35 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device > > > > I guess making them disable the Circle for troubleshooting might be a > satisfactory compromise. Although I thought it had a battery and WiFi so > kids couldn’t just unplug it, how do you turn the darn thing off? Battery > pull? > > > > Also, would it be reasonable to require them to connect the Circle with an > Ethernet cable so everything isn’t taking a double trip through the WiFi? > That would eliminate one of my two concerns about the Circle. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray > *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2020 2:39 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device > > > > If it works for them I don't care what people use on the network. If they > called in for help we would tell them to unplug the circle first, just like > someone troubleshooting over wireless. > > > > We have enough control and insight into the home network with our own > routers and extenders that I don't mind if people want to disable arp > spoofing on the router to use a circle. > > > > > https://support.meetcircle.com/hc/en-us/articles/360026363452-CALIX-GIGACENTER-844G-844E-and-Circle > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 5:45 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > So you’re OK with a device that essentially does a man-in-the-middle > attack on your managed router, using ARP spoofing to pretend to be the > router, rerouting traffic multiple times across the WiFi network? I’m > trending toward the position that I won’t troubleshoot LAN issues or manage > the router if the customer wants to do that. And that if they really like > the Circle parental controls, they should buy one of the Netgear routers > that has Circle built in to the router. No hacker tricks needed. > > > > If customers want a “managed router” from us, meaning we are responsible > for all their LAN and WiFi issues, I’m getting tired of them trying to add > spoofing devices, range extenders, etc. to the network. Hey Mr. Customer, > if you want to manage your network, you’re welcome to, but it’s one or the > other – ISP managed or customer managed. Make up your mind. Or call Geek > Squad. > > > > https://www.netgear.com/landings/circle/ > > > > > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/07/can-disneys-circle-really-deliver-a-porn-free-internet/ > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 9, 2020 11:39 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device > > > > We have customers using Circle with a Calix 844e and 804 mesh and it works > fine. > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 8:24 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote: > > I’ve got one connected at home with an Amplifi mesh. I could see people > blaming their ISP for stuff not working if they set the default settings to > restrict a lot of stuff. I set ours to block facebook and some other stuff > for anybody who connects to the wifi but isn’t assigned to a profile. I > haven’t had any problems with it causing any signal issues though. > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 9, 2020 3:59 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device > > > > Hmmmm, does that work seamlessly, or could it cause problems people blame > on their Internet? And would it play nice with a range extender or mesh > system? > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 9, 2020 1:07 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device > > > > ARP spoofing. It's not inline at all. If possible, it should be hardwired > to the router instead of wifi for best performance. > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, 12:51 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > routerlimits had something similar, never got to investigate much before > bark bought them > > i figured it either did dns or spoofing of something > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 12:43 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > Customer has a Circle device on their WiFi network which apparently is a > parental control device. > > > > How does this work if it’s just another device on the WiFi? It seems like > it would have to either be inline with the path to the Internet, or somehow > take over DNS. 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