So you’re OK with a device that essentially does a man-in-the-middle attack on 
your managed router, using ARP spoofing to pretend to be the router, rerouting 
traffic multiple times across the WiFi network?  I’m trending toward the 
position that I won’t troubleshoot LAN issues or manage the router if the 
customer wants to do that.  And that if they really like the Circle parental 
controls, they should buy one of the Netgear routers that has Circle built in 
to the router.  No hacker tricks needed.

 

If customers want a “managed router” from us, meaning we are responsible for 
all their LAN and WiFi issues, I’m getting tired of them trying to add spoofing 
devices, range extenders, etc. to the network.  Hey Mr. Customer, if you want 
to manage your network, you’re welcome to, but it’s one or the other – ISP 
managed or customer managed.  Make up your mind.  Or call Geek Squad.

 

https://www.netgear.com/landings/circle/

 

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/07/can-disneys-circle-really-deliver-a-porn-free-internet/

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 11:39 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device

 

We have customers using Circle with a Calix 844e and 804 mesh and it works 
fine. 

 

 

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 8:24 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net 
<mailto:ja...@litewire.net> > wrote:

I’ve got one connected at home with an Amplifi mesh.  I could see people 
blaming their ISP for stuff not working if they set the default settings to 
restrict a lot of stuff.  I set ours to block facebook and some other stuff for 
anybody who connects to the wifi but isn’t assigned to a profile.  I haven’t 
had any problems with it causing any signal issues though.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> ] On 
Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 3:59 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device

 

Hmmmm, does that work seamlessly, or could it cause problems people blame on 
their Internet?  And would it play nice with a range extender or mesh system?

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 1:07 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device

 

ARP spoofing. It's not inline at all. If possible, it should be hardwired to 
the router instead of wifi for best performance. 

 

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, 12:51 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

routerlimits had something similar, never got to investigate much before bark 
bought them

i figured it either did dns or spoofing of something

 

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 12:43 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Customer has a Circle device on their WiFi network which apparently is a 
parental control device.

 

How does this work if it’s just another device on the WiFi?  It seems like it 
would have to either be inline with the path to the Internet, or somehow take 
over DNS.  Or is it doing something intrusive on the WiFi?

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