It might help speed things along if you slip Cory a C-note. lol > On Aug 13, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote: > > We ordered months in advance. Just not enough months in advance. We will be > up poop creek without ONTs soon. Even the 803Gs are hard to come by. > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 2:28 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> > wrote: > Yeah.... just now firing this up. We have customers seeing our work crews > and accosting them for service. I could say it is a wonderful problem to > have buy my eye is truly on greenfield. We are serving some of them along > the way. > > From: Cassidy B. Larson <> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 1:25 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx > > Thats why you order months in advance and spread delivery timelines out :) > >> On Aug 13, 2020, at 1:23 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com <>> <ch...@wbmfg.com <>> wrote: >> >> BTW, I just heard that Calix cannot get the broadcom chip used in the 844s. >> So October or later for deliveries. >> >> From: Carl Peterson <> >> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 12:12 PM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx >> >> Yeah, I wouldn't use it outdoors. Possibly straight out of the back of NID >> on the outside wall into the unit. We just use it for the fiber wall plate >> to the 844G. In MDUs we run 3MM RBR bend insensitive pre-terminated on one >> end and splice it in the wall plate. You can also get it terminated on both >> ends of course. It can be run pretty much like cat5. If part of the run is >> outside, get the version with UV protection. Wall plates are cheap and >> replacing a 1m patch cable is a whole lot easier then replacing a drop to a >> unit if you go straight to the ONT. We have fibermint build out our wall >> plates with a shutter adapter and a pigtail. Order ~1K at a time. Speaking >> of which it is time to drop another order. Lead times are a PITA due to >> COVID19 and the constant changing of tariff rules. >> >> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 1:02 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com <>> wrote: >>> If the FS is tough enough to run from the NID to the biscuit and withstand >>> staples, tight bends and UV then it sounds pretty good. But I really like >>> the little metal bullet end on the pre terminated Miniflex. Easy to push >>> through a wall etc. >>> >>> From: Carl Peterson <> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 11:34 AM >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx >>> >>> FS armored patch is different then clearfield pushable. FS has a 900um >>> loose inside a metal spiral with a PVC jacket. CFD pushable has a 900um in >>> gel inside a thick plastic jacket. You can't really push the FS with >>> connectors on it, or at all really. The FS is much more flexible and >>> doesn't kink like CFD pushable but you can't push it. I don't like CFD >>> pushable outside of microduct. Too easy to mess up and there are better >>> fibers for the application. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:56 AM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net <>> wrote: >>>> Well, I have managed to put a staple through it if that counts :-) If >>>> you don’t shoot the staple right through it it works fine - I just had bad >>>> aim. And for what it’s worth the cable still worked. It’s at my house >>>> so I’m not too worried about it. Hopefully our install crew uses a little >>>> more care. >>>> >>>> It’s relatively stiff but it’s not like the Clearfield or other brands of >>>> pushable fiber that have a very minimal diameter protected stub at the end >>>> that you then assemble the SC connector to after pushing it in. You can >>>> get the movable part of the SC connector to pop off but you still have the >>>> full square end of the SC to deal with - it won’t go through most >>>> microduct, but you can get it through the normal drill size you shove >>>> CAT-5 cable though. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>>> On Aug 13, 2020, at 11:22 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Will this FS stuff take a staple and can you push it through microduct? >>>>> >>>>> From: Mark Radabaugh <> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 7:23 PM >>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx >>>>> >>>>> I fhink you preterminated indoor jumper cost is too high. These >>>>> https://www.fs.com/c/armored-patch-cables-220 >>>>> <https://www.fs.com/c/armored-patch-cables-220> work fine for the inside >>>>> wiring from the outdoor box to the wall plate or direct to CPE if you are >>>>> not doing a inside jack. They are not UV rated so you have to make sure >>>>> you don’t leave them exposed outdoor. You can pop the outer SC portion >>>>> off the jumper if you want to pass through a smaller hole. >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 12, 2020, at 7:00 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> <CPE Install Costs.xlsx> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com <> >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com <> >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com <> >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Carl Peterson >>> PORT NETWORKS >>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>> (410) 637-3707 >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com <> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com <> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> >> >> >> -- >> Carl Peterson >> PORT NETWORKS >> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >> Baltimore, MD 21202 >> (410) 637-3707 >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > > -- > Carl Peterson > > PORT NETWORKS > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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