Doing a Google search, I think this is the most recent revision of the 5 GHz 
rules.  It modified a previous order that would move from 15.247 to 15.407 for 
the entire band, which would have been very bad for us.  Basically the use of 
antenna gain for PTP links would have been outlawed unless you employed 
expensive filtering.  Out of band emissions would have been limited based on 
radiated power including antenna gain, not conducted power.

 

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/04/06/2016-07847/unlicensed-national-information-infrastructure-order-on-reconsideration

 

I believe the revised order still causes some equipment to impose lower xmt 
power on channels near the band edge, for example the last channel next to a 
DFS sub band.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 11:56 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Part 15

 

Ok. Then I’m confused or looking at something wrong. Thanks. 





On Jul 5, 2020, at 12:17 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com 
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I don't know about 450, but ePMP most certainly does allow PTP power levels on 
SMs

 

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 9:55 AM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote:

Epmp. But as far as I know also 450m 5GHz. 





On Jul 5, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:



Which ones?



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From: "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
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<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Part 15

So then why don’t cambium subscriber units allow higher power uplink powers 
from the subscriber?  They appear locked as if they were an AP. 

 

On Jul 5, 2020, at 10:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:

 

I believe this was asked of the OET years ago and they agreed with you.  

 

From: Matt Hoppes 

Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 7:59 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>  

Subject: [AFMUG] Part 15

 

Was looking over the Part 15 rules.  

 

What is it that would cause a subscriber unit in a PtMP system to not be 
considered PtP when returning to the tower?

 

“ However, fixed point-to-point  U-NII devices 
<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=47929188def4f157fff3cd584f3ba7e3&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:A:Part:15:Subpart:E:15.407>
  operating in this band may employ transmitting antennas with directional gain 
greater than 6 dBi without any corresponding reduction in transmitter conducted 
power.”

 

A subscriber unit, unless it’s some kind of relay, is a PtP device. 


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