Everyone has a different threshold for these ethical dilemmas. If it was about lying we'd find someone who thinks overt lies are ok if they're useful or expedient, and someone who can't tolerate any untruth at all, and a lot of people in the middle who can justify prevarication and equivocation in the right circumstances (like probably everyone in marketing).

Personally, I'd say actively soliciting employees of your customer is over the line, but bviously this contractor sees it differently.  With a customer or vendor you have to maintain relations so you can keep doing business.  With a customer or vendor I'd be wary of even having that type of conversation with their employees at all, regardless of who initiated it.  Maybe you're a small enough customer that he can afford to lose you?

With a competitor it might be different.  Good people are a competitive advantage.  I wouldn't actively recruit from them, but I'd /certainly /talk to the employee if they came to me. Some people might actively recruit from competitors, and even if that makes me uncomfortable I can understand why people would make that choice.

With companies in the same business but different markets they're completely fair game.  The fact that people have posted jobs on this mailing list is evidence that other people would agree with that.  If there was an ISP two counties over and I liked one of their employees I'd say "hey, if you get tired of these guys then reach out to us".


On 6/22/2020 10:58 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
A fiber contractor, to whom I had awarded at least a million or perhaps as much as $2M worth of work to in the past 7 years had one of his guys stop by my work crew and try to hire them.  They offered “more than what Chuck is paying you” without knowing what Chuck is paying. Nice guy.  I told the crew (one jumped ship immediately) they should do what is right for them and their family.  I can always hire and train more. But the personal cheap shot nature of this act was curious.  People are puzzling.  I would never do that in such an overt manner. I did have a couple of his former employees on my crew.  He had let them go and I picked them up.

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